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Giggs And Neville's City Centre Plans

Footballers turned property developers team up with council to reimagine Bootle Street And Jackson's Row

Written by . Published on September 2nd 2014.


Giggs And Neville's City Centre Plans
 

THE CITY Council is teaming up with Gary Neville and Ryan Giggs to redevelop the area around Bootle Street police station.

The budding property moguls have also recently collaborated on the Hotel Football development at Old Trafford, set to open this December.

The synagogue, the pub and the old station are all likely to go as it is redeveloped into a 'new mixed-use development'.

Jacksons Row Development Company (JRDC), a company owned by Neville and Giggs, along with developer and Burnley FC director Brendan Flood, already owns the site or is just about to own the neighbouring United Reformed Synagogue in Jackson’s Row, the Sir Ralph Abercrombie Pub and an important bit of land in between.

Now the Council plans to buy the police station and lease the site back to JRDC so the company can put forward a detailed masterplan for the whole site which is expected to include bars, restaurants and a high-end hotel.

Giggs and NevilleGiggs and Neville

Why is JRDC not simply buying the police station instead? Maybe because the city has inserted a clause saying that if they are not happy with the masterplan produced, they get the right to buy out JRDC’s interests and move forward with another partner.

Sir Howard Bernstein has not been in charge for fifteen years for nothing.

Here’s the detail from the report:

"If the scheme put forward by JRDC does not satisfy the conditions the Council has the option to acquire the JRDC interests to assemble the comprehensive site, and seek to procure an alternative development partner in the usual manner."

This is an important section of the city but the synagogue, the pub and the old station are all likely to go as it is redeveloped into a 'new mixed-use development of local and regional importance.'

"The site has the potential to extend the high quality environment that already characterises the city centre, introduce new residential, leisure and commercial facilities, enhance connectivity (including to Spinningfields) and maximise wider regeneration benefits.

"Its redevelopment needs to be brought forward in a way that complements existing developments in adjacent areas within the city centre, such as Spinningfields, First Street and those along the Corridor."

The former police stationThe former police station

The City Council has long had ambitions to bring a five star hotel to the heart of the city, InterContinental being top of the wish list, and this would be the perfect site close to the Manchester Central conference events.

That JRDC already has 'a contractual agreement with a major international hotel operation, for a major 4/5* brand that is not currently represented in the City' has obviously aided its cause.

It has also pledged that it has the money to fund all the pre-development reports and planning and will secure funding partners before work starts.

The price of the police station is not revealed in the report which is being considered by the Executive on Wednesday 3 September.

More here.

Neville and Giggs have also collaborated on Hotel FootballNeville and Giggs have also collaborated on Hotel Football at Old Trafford

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67 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Mixed use? Great! Don't tell me...a coffee shop, a Greggs, a YAFI of some sort, a gym and some permanently empty offices and apartments...and all made out of glass and steel?

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GimboidSeptember 2nd 2014.

Wow Anon, you're like a freaking genius or something, guessing that city-centre type businesses will be built on a city-centre site, amazing insight there. Any chance you can have a go at next week's lottery numbers?

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Watch this space son. Unless of course you imagine something different?

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Why would they build offices and apartments and leave them empty?

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

What's Anon getting at? Are there empty offices on eg. Brazennose Street or Brown Street?

AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

Why build a luxury hotel when we already have the Premier Inn?

Calum McGSeptember 4th 2014.

Anon1, where are these empty apartments?

rinkydinkSeptember 2nd 2014.

Is it the same person that writes all of these 'Anonymous' comments? So boring - surely there can't be hundreds of people like this...?

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

...and like you?

rinkydinkSeptember 2nd 2014.

Zzzzzz... bore off

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

@Above sounds like a James Bond arch enemy.

Trish KarneySeptember 2nd 2014.

I'd personally like to see the police station redeveloped - it's a disgrace that the old labour exchange was torn down in favour of another "One Piccadilly Gardens"

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GooseSeptember 2nd 2014.

In what way is the hotel on the Labour Exchange site 'another "One Piccadilly Gardens"' ? In the sense that you don't personally like it?

Ghostly TomSeptember 2nd 2014.

I would like to see to police station redeveloped retaining the Southmill Street facade. But, I have to say, I've never been a fan of that old Labour Exchange building. I appreciate other people think it is wonderful but I won't be mourning its passing.

Trish KarneySeptember 3rd 2014.

In the sense it's an unimaginative identikit building that would probably look impressive in Middlesbrough or Doncaster but in Manchester would look a bit of a limp dick.

rinkydinkSeptember 3rd 2014.

Great choice of words!

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

This is scandalous.Why does a private development like this deserve money from the council?.I cannot believe this could not be redeveloped without the necessity for the council to buy it for them.After all we are constantly being told how much demand there is for people to invest in the city.Its very obvious that Manchester Council has its 'pets',those that are more favoured,those that are helped with development.

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Did you read the full article? (the city has inserted a clause saying that if they are not happy with the masterplan produced, they get the right to buy out JRDC’s interests and move forward with another partner) Is that not better than someone buying the buildings and making a mess of it? Stop moaning. Or is this a problem because the players mentioned played for the red side of the city?

AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

You are right Anon#1. the city DOES have its pet developers. If I were JRDC i'd be very worried about that clause... MCC will more than likely find a way to get ASK or Allied London involved in the project some how... possibly to the detriment of JRDC. Tread carefully JRDC.

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Millionaire ex footballers manage to get council to buy property so they will redevelop it.Those guys must be very persuasive to pull that one of.

SquirrelitoSeptember 2nd 2014.

Are they keeping any of the current buildings. The frontage on Southmill Street would make a grand entrance for a 5 star hotel. I don't think the block takes up much of the land either. Probably not old enough to have been listed though, so I guess it's a goner.

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Manchester's looking more like 'Sim City' every day.

GimboidSeptember 2nd 2014.

Cities in Sim City have a range of traditional and modern building styles, is that what you meant? Sounds like a good thing to me.

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

That's what I mean. Almost like a Utopia.

Ghostly TomSeptember 2nd 2014.

I hope that they keep to Portland stone facade of the police station. It doesn't take up a great deal of the space and greatly adds to the view along Southmill Street. It would be a loss. The synagogue isn't a thing of beauty but it would be good to keep a synagogue in the city centre. I seem to remember there was a plan to redevelop the site and have the synagogue in an office building rather like they have done with the Cross Street Chapel. And room should be made for the little pub. A bit of imagination by the developers, the council and the architects could make this an asset to the city while retaining some of the old character.

Ghostly TomSeptember 10th 2014.

They now say that the synagogue will be rebuilt inside one of the new buildings like the Cross Street Chapel was rebuilt, in my opinion successfully. So that part of the problem has been resolved. Now we need to get them to see sense of retaining the Southmill Street facade of the police station and the Sir Ralph....

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

It would be very sad if the synagogue was demolished.Manchester should protect what's left of its Jewish heritage.Considering the Jewish population size and their contribution to the history of the city there is already a lack of presence of this in the city centre.

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

I agree. I'm surprised there's been no Jewish protest.

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Yes, but most attend in Higher Broughton,Prestwich and Whitefield.....SHOULD live walking distance from place of worship, so hence SMALL congregation in town...

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

In the city centre you have seemingly every restaurant type under the sun.But you have no traditional Jewish restaurants and no contemporary ones in the city centre.Israel has some fantastic restaurants but this is not represented in Manchester.I don't know whether there is a fear to have such businesses,because of the attitude of some Moslem groups in Manchester to any business owned by Jews.

SquirrelitoSeptember 2nd 2014.

Not much weekend trade to support city centre costs. Who's going to walk into town on a Friday night or Saturday, and then walk home? Much of the Jewish population on the Salford / Manchester / Bury borders are quite Orthodox and socialising is mostly done at home. Rare Grill in Sedgley Park was really good, but suffered due to this. Delis and bakeries thrive though.

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Mr Bernstein's a Jew. You would have thought he'd have preserved it.

GooseSeptember 2nd 2014.

Why would you have thought that, about a building that council don't own?

Poster BoySeptember 2nd 2014.

Depending on your point of view this is either another laudable arrangement by Mr Bernstein to keep it local, or yet another example of a cosy deal with his current 'chosen ones'. The City Council may well have to use CPO powers in order to secure site assembly, on a site which has not been exposed to the open market to secure best value, where it is proposing to enter into a joint venture arrangement with a shell SPV company (albeit sprinkled with celebrity stardust), all of which comes with an inherent guarantee of a paucity of ambition in its execution. All that's missing is the announcement of ISA as architects. Full house anybody...?

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AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

I think Rachael would do a nice job.

James SmithSeptember 2nd 2014.

It will all be demolished and replaced with a poorly designed, cheaply built, pile of sh*t that will be out dated before the end of the decade. Please can somebody stop it? Build on the derelict sites, why does every single development in Manchester involve knocking something nice down?! 2nd city my arse, it will be a by-word for badly planned urban crap in 20 years that nobody will want to visit, work or live in.

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2014.

Maybe but at least it'll be full of Yet another Fucking Italian YAFI's

Ghostly TomSeptember 3rd 2014.

I quite like Italian...it's the over priced burger joints all over town that get me irate.

AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

The current police station is dark, depressing and unfit for purpose, This will be a good opportunity to open it up a little as the plans show and bring more quality floorspace to the city.

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AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

It's unfit for purpose because the police no longer need it. Does not mean it cannot be repurposed for a different use or occupier.

AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

Like what? It's dark and depresssing and a layout that is perfect for... an old police station?

Peter CoppingSeptember 3rd 2014.

This is the bit that matters. The adjacency of the site to the City’s key civic buildings demands new developments must be of an EXCEPTIONAL quality in terms of buildings and public spaces to match and signify the importance of this key strategic site within the area’s Civic Quarter; · The development must take account of its location within the Deansgate Conservation Area, and immediately adjacent to the Albert Square and St Peters Square Conservation Areas, and its potential impact on the grade I and grade II* listed buildings located within those areas. · Where appropriate, buildings should provide active retail frontages; · Access, servicing and parking should be consistent with the wider Civic Quarter area, and should aim to discourage traffic along Bootle Street and Southmill Street and PROMOTE THE USE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT Giggsy has plenty to do in his day job I think and should concentrate on that to prevent a major Manchester contributor to the City's prosperity from collapsing.

Peter CoppingSeptember 3rd 2014.

By the way why did ManCon wait until today when it was decided to tell us this?

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EditorialSeptember 3rd 2014.

The article was published yesterday Spence. Editorial.

MGSSeptember 3rd 2014.

yeh Spence

BaggioSeptember 3rd 2014.

how come we haven't knocked down the town hall yet? or central library? they're really old buildings! get rid!

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AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

Are you saying EVERY old building should be preserved, even if it's shit?

AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

I'm appalled at the lack of imagination in the proposed development here. There's no shortage of derelict and brownfield sites (there are even some inside the CBD). Why do they have to pull down striking heritage and what people associate central Manchester with? It wouldn't happen in central London or any other important european city.

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AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

It happens in London all the time.

AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

Who 'associates central Manchester' with Bootle Street Police Station? Really, if that's what you associate with the city, we have issues.

Calum McGSeptember 4th 2014.

It's a very average set of buildings. I don't see the problem with flattening them and starting again. Nothing amazing about any of them.

AnonymousSeptember 3rd 2014.

Who actually currently owns the police station?.Is it Greater Manchester Police?.If so why are they going to sell it to the council?.Surely they have a duty to sell it on the open market to the highest bidder,or could themselves enter a partnership with the developers if they concerned to preserve the integrity of the building.With the current deal there is no clarity about what this building is actually really worth.

tricktdSeptember 4th 2014.

The Abercrombie is one of the few traditional pubs in this part of the city- its unusual feature of opening onto streets either side (like the nearby Nags Head) adds to its townscape interest. A development like Spinningfields or First Street? Hard to see how that would "take account of its position in the Deansgate Conservation Area". I agree with Ghostly Tom- a more imaginative and sensitive proposal is needed here- not a grandiose ego scheme. But what do Leese, Bernstein et al like? Grandiose ego schemes.

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Calum McGSeptember 4th 2014.

If we think tinpot little schemes, we will never rival bigger cities. This is the centre. We should be bold.

AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

@Callum Perhaps have the post war vision of Glasgow then?

Duke FameSeptember 4th 2014.

"Sir Howard Bernstein has not been in charge for fifteen years for nothing." Never a truer word!

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DavidSeptember 5th 2014.

Well said. Its not like back in the late 80s when Frank Skinner and Selina Scott were in charge. Back then we had truly inspirational leaders that went out and bid for things like the Olympic Games and aspired for Manchester to be seen on a par with Barcelona. They were in the Abercrombie all the time yet I have not seen Leese or Karney in there once. No wonder all Manchester's buildings get knocked down and replaced with zombie car parks and we have nothing but burger joints and YAFIs and Poundlands and traffic chaos everywhere.

GooseSeptember 5th 2014.

Hurrah, David's back! "all Manchester's buildings get knocked down... we have nothing but burger joints and YAFIs..." and he's not changed, brilliant!

firepufferSeptember 4th 2014.

Well said TRICKTD. Has anyone mentioned that somebody's living will be going out of the window, if the "Ralph" is pulled down? Bloody footballers! Hated them when they were over paid oiks, still hate 'em now!

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AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

And all that money that will be invested creating Jobs isn't worth a little pain?

AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

@Anon thanks for your input there Mr Giggs.

firepufferSeptember 4th 2014.

Well said TRICKTD. Has anyone mentioned that somebody's living will be going out of the window, if the "Ralph" is pulled down? Bloody footballers! Hated them when they were over paid oiks, still hate 'em now!

firepufferSeptember 4th 2014.

Yeah and a bigger wedge going to messrs Giggs and Neville (like they need more!)

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AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

Giggs & Neville are building things in the city and employing young people, linking college courses with Salford City Football Club and giving young people an opportunity. Why is that a bad thing?

AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

Because they're knocking down a pub, an old Police station and a synagogue?

AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

What, so you'd rather said things lay empty?

AnonymousSeptember 4th 2014.

No, I'd rather the main aspects of the buidlings be utilised to some degree rather than demolished to make way for...well...I'm sure you've a good idea of what it will look like!

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