Welcome to Manchester Confidential
Reset Password
The Confidential websites will be undergoing routine updates. This may cause the sites to go offline. We apologise in advance for any inconvenience.

You are here: Manchester ConfidentialNews.

PROTEST: 'Smart Rally' To Attack Coalition Cuts

On Tuesday 3 February Shaun Ryder, Terry Christian and Sir Richard Leese to do a 'Hong Kong'

Written by . Published on February 2nd 2015.


PROTEST: 'Smart Rally' To Attack Coalition Cuts
 

IN Hong Kong they protested about democracy - in Manchester's Albert Square it's going to be an anti-austerity demonstration.

We could do with the government listening to the howls of rage from northern cities about the inequitable cuts. 

This will focus on the disproportionate funding cuts imposed on cities such as Manchester (£59m in 2015/16 - read herecompared to the cuts gently drifted onto prosperous county towns and shire districts.

Generally accepted figures indicate Manchester would be £50m per annum better off if the average national cut had been imposed on the city. 

Thus, on Tuesday 3 February, Shaun Ryder, Terry Christian and council leader, Sir Richard Leese, will speechify about the problems being caused to the city, with provision for kids and the elderly especially hard hit, as well as aspects of city centre life including maintenance and litter-picking.

The audience at the meeting is being invited to hold their illuminated smartphones aloft and shine out their protest. People will then be asked to tweet an anti-austerity message to government with the hastag #ManvCam.

Shaun Ryder has said: “I’m proud to stand up for Manchester at this major city rally. There should be no more cuts for kids and elderly people in our communities.”

Confidential just wishes the reference in all the press releases about the rally hadn't been with regard to the Hong Kong protests. They failed. 

Still the cause is worthy. We could do with the government listening to the howls of rage from northern cities about the inequitable cuts. All the big 2014 autumn news about scientific and cultural investment in Manchester won't replace the loss of almost £1m a week in the more isolated and poor neighbourhoods.

The event on Tuesday 3 February runs from 5.45pm-6.45pm. 

#MANvCAM

Like what you see? Enter your email to sign up for our newsletters which are chock-a-block with more great reviews, news, deals and savings.

51 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

I don't get Manchester's council. They are quite happy to have millions showered on the city for infrastructure projects that will bring work and jobs to the city but then complain because they have to take part in cuts which they would have to regardless of which party was in power. Having your cake and eat it springs to mind...

15 Responses: Reply To This...
AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

The point is that the cuts are too severe and much bigger proportionately for large cities such as Mcr compared to rural / wealthy areas.

DarrenFebruary 2nd 2015.

Maybe wealthy areas are wealthy because they don't waste £3.5m on glass carbuncles or £500k on Alicia Keys concerts?

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

I think it's more that big cities have a disproportional number of poor people who need support (or handouts if you prefer) than the rural counties. London will be in the same position as Manchester in spite of the wealth evident there. And don't forget that the place that has the second largest number of millionaires after London is Manchester apparently. Big cities have always had people from both ends of the wealth scale living in close proximity.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Someone poor living in Cheshire (they do have them out there as well) will face the same problems as a poor person in inner city Manchester. It's just that the problem is more evident here than it is in Wilmslow. The only way out of poverty is education and upskilling. Invest money in those areas and get people on their feet. It's the old African idea of 'give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, give him a fishing rod and he'll eat for life.'

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

You are not understanding the difference between capital fundung for buildings and infrastructure which is needed to help grow the economy and revenue funding which is to deliver services. Both have been drastically cut but it is the latter that has borne the largest cuts, basically because government dont understand let alone value the services councils deliver; nor understand the very different needs of deprived authorities as compared to affluent ones. Local government finance rules mean it would be illegal to convert capital funding to revenue.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

'The only way out of poverty is education and upskilling.'? Hmmmm...no. Better parenting is the ONLY way out of poverty. Education must begin at home for the potential scrotes and feckless Mancunians in our city, and not left to the state to indoctrinate them.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Well we could argue till the cows come home about whether the way out of poverty lies in education or parenting. But one thing that doesn't work is giving people money to stay at home doing nothing. That just encourages people to be idle. Of course I exempt people who have real medical problems or disabilities that stop them for working. But giving money to the idle and the feckless is just stupid. There's a lot of those in Manchester.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Of course education and parenting are both important but the root cause of underachievement, crime and poor social mobility, if you do some reading, reveals itself to be inequality - both income inequality and related social inequality. Council services are not about 'giving people money' but building a decent and civil society, one which provides an environment in which all can flourish in. Unfortunately the only debate that has any currency is the size of the welfare or NHS budget, both of which are the outcome of poor placed-based conditions affecting certain sections of society. It is therefore utterly unacceptable that the places that have the greatest needs have been hit hardest by government council funding cuts.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Council services (giving people money for not working) will not produce a decent and civil society. It will produce a dependency culture. Who would work if someone gives them money for doing nothing? Spend the money on education and getting people to a place where they can stand on their own two feet. The council should be concerned with providing core services for all people (street cleaning, road maintenance, libraries etc), not feather bedding the idle.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

^ what are you going on about? You're confusung social security (the Department of Work and Pensions who administer benefits is an arm of central not local government) with council services.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Just out of curiosity, what are the advantages of being employed and living in a council house as opposed to being employed and saving up for a deposit on a house and then paying your bills and your mortgage repayments on time?

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Not sure what your point is but I imagine the average salary of people living in social housing is lower than for owner occupiers. There will also be the advantages of having a network of close friends and family nearby who can provide moral and material support.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

@anon above when a council tennant retires does the council evict them because they don't have any income or savings?

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

I doubt it. They are probably eligible for some sort of housing benefit which may or may not be sufficient to cover their rent. Just as someone renting from a housing association or private landlord would. In fact one of the reasons the housing benefit bill is as big as it is is because the private sector doesn't build enough houses so vast sums of public money are paid to mainly private landlords many of whom operate poorly manged and maintained properties, yet rake it in at the tax payer's expense. All this has nothing to do with council seevices since housing benefit, like unemployment benefit is administered via the DWP.

AnonymousFebruary 4th 2015.

Perhaps I should sell my house and live in a council house. I'd have more money in my pocket and the tax payer can fund my retirement. Win, win.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

The meeting should take place in the £3.5 million unused glass structure that's blocking Library Walk.

15 Responses: Reply To This...
AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

This makes no sense. What is library walk? Libraries like other non statutory services have had their funding slashed due to the 40% budget reduction that councils have had to bear. It is a scandal that deprived authorities have been hit so much harder than better off ones. This is something the government simply cannot deny nor justify.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

What is library walk? Not from 'round 'ere are you, son?

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Eh? One persons niche concern is not always the same as someone else's. Why would you assume everyone knows what you're going on about?

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

You would have to have been Sleeping Beauty, out cold for the last 100 years, not to know about the Library Walk controversy.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

So what is it and how is it relevant?

rinkydinkFebruary 2nd 2015.

Kinda sums things up really. Most people couldn't give a flying toss about Library Walk apart from a dozen or so rabid ranters on here

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Actually, a correction, it looks like libraries are in fact a statutory service. What this means is that like social care, it cannot be cut completely but, thanks to disproportionate government budget reductions is being chopped back to a skeleton service in some places.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

If you don't know what they're on about, just Google Library Walk FFS! As for you Rinkydink I'm very surprised with your attitude here because it's highly unlikely downtown L.A. has buildings which compare to the quality and history of Central Library and the Twon hall Extension. You'll always be a tourist in this city, Rinkydink. You're just another locust on this planet.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Yeah so how is the Walk thing relevant? Still don't understand what you're getting at.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Irrelevant? How do you not know what Library Walk is? Did you miss the thousands of comments about it on here and on the MEN website and Mancunian Matters and the protests on Facebook and Twitter? People in this city bang on about the evil Tories and how the poor Labour party have their hands tied and are the party of the people. Yet it was the Labour party who has wasted £3.5 Million on a glass monstrosity that was not needed in anyway whatsoever. They have paid £3.5m to ruin one of the best parts of central Manchester, and a lot of people are very angry and upset about it. They also wasted £500k on a Alicia Keys concert.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

The glass structure hasn't been worked on since well before Christmas.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Ah right you're in about a capital scheme, funding which cant pay for services. A niche concern and completely irrelevant to the article. Glad that's cleared that one up.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

It's not been worked on as they may have to take it down. Every excuse they have used for building it has been proven to be wrong.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

...and people quite happily walk in and out of both buildings with ease, by using the doors that already exist.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Irrelevant.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

People seem to forget that we live in a very wealthy society. There is plenty of money to pay for the services we need but the super rich have almost all of it. There's never been a bigger gap between rich and poor.

2 Responses: Reply To This...
AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

Actually the vast majority of the people in the UK are in the top 10% of the worlds wealthy. If you live in the UK, by world standards you are rich. To eliminate poverty on a global scale most of the people here would have to take a considerable cut in income.

AnonymousFebruary 2nd 2015.

There are white trailer trash in America living a higher standard of living than their equivalent class in this city. It's all about priorities in life.

Poster BoyFebruary 3rd 2015.

Shaun Ryder, Terry Christian, hashtags and iphones. God give me strength. Ever get the feeling that politics is being dumbed down...?

9 Responses: Reply To This...
AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Can someone Tweet Leese about the expense of Library Walk please?

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

@anon if you want to make yourself look like an ill informed moron, go ahead. That is not relevant to the subject of budget cuts to council services and disproportionate cuts meted out by government to the most deprived areas.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

@anon above, but it would put Leese on the spot, hopefully inform more people about the debacle and highlight the fact that we can all talk about cuts, yet our very own Labour dominated council can spend large sums of money unwisely.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Is it though? Seems like a good idea to me. For most people it's not even on their radar. There really are better things to be pressing the council and indeed central government about than a minor project that has got a few people hot under the collar.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

£3.5 million? Minor? Good grief!

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Seems like a good idea?!

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

i don't see how your particular beef has any relevance to this issue.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Are you concerned at all about library services? Seemingly not!

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Do people still use libraries in their traditional sense?

Mark FullerFebruary 3rd 2015.

I think it would be wrong to dismiss Terry Christian and Shaun Ryder as a pair of shroud waving , loud-mouthed professional Mancunian oiks. They are correct to highlight the plight of Labour areas like Manchester, Liverpool and inner London which are facing the deepest cuts. However, if readers check the figures, they will see that these areas still receive far more government largess than the prosperous Conservative areas. Residents in the socialist Shangri la that is Hackney, receive almost 10 times as much as the selfish Tories in Wokingham. We all, not just the government, have a duty to help the disadvantaged as best we can.But whilst state spending is vital, it is not a panacea, nor a substitute for our personal responsibility to care and be engaged. Finally, we should not let Marxist firebrands persuade us that society as a whole is under a black cloud of austerity. Take a look at the recently released retail figures for Manchester city centre and The Trafford Centre. Only London tops Manchester for retail expenditure. The city is booming: as are many other parts of the U.K.

2 Responses: Reply To This...
AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Ryder's a brain frazzled scrote done good-done bad-done goodness knows. The idiot needs a full time regular job [at least] before I start listening to him. As for Christian, he maybe be outspoken, but he does tend to let his red politics and football dominate the conversation.

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Ryder has written some classic tunes though tbf. And Mr Christian has been tweeting a lot of things the Manchester Green Party have been saying. The party is now 5 times bigger than it was a matter of months ago. The Greens are on the march!!!

AnonymousFebruary 3rd 2015.

Well that was about as pathetic as it gets.

AnonymousFebruary 4th 2015.

Just seems like an attempt by labour to energise their voters and get them interested and campaigning in the run up to the election with a bit of anti conservative rhetoric. You can bet that there will be no mention of the fact that maintaining the cuts is Labour party policy. And no discussion of what the alternatives are.

Poster BoyFebruary 4th 2015.

Embarrassing fiasco. No surprise there then.

To post this comment, you need to login.Please complete your login information.
OR CREATE AN ACCOUNT HERE..
Or you can login using Facebook.

Latest Rants

Anonymous

Repeating,without any evidence the same point that socialism = public services is hardly…

 Read more
Anonymous

You absolutely right,I hate all these bloody nimbys stopping development and progress.Of course if…

 Read more
Anonymous

Manchester's size and climate isn't dissimilar to Rotterdam or Dusseldorf but the city is held back…

 Read more
Anonymous

Straying off the point again David, which is that investing in public services is socialist but as…

 Read more

Explore The Site

© Mark Garner t/a Confidential Direct 2017

Privacy | Careers | Website by: Planet Code | SEO by The eWord