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£350m Tram Link - City Centre To Trafford Centre

Twelve week public consultation on the new route to start in July

Written by . Published on June 13th 2014.


£350m Tram Link - City Centre To Trafford Centre
 

METROLINK is on the move again with new plans to spread the network across Greater Manchester.

The new Metrolink route will run from the Pomona stop along the Manchester Ship Canal, following Trafford Wharf Road, Warren Bruce Road and through the village area of Trafford Park. It will then cross Park Circle and the Bridgewater Canal and terminate at the Trafford Centre.

They want your thoughts.

Transport for Greater Manchester are set to involve the public in the decision making process for the proposed new line to Trafford Park and the Trafford Centre.

The Trafford Centre's taste in exotic lamps is...er...distinctive

The Trafford Centre's taste in exotic lamps is...er...distinctive. But my 2019 they might be accessible by tram 

Public consultation on improving transport links to Trafford Park is due to open this summer following a TfGM committee approval meeting on Friday 20 June. If agreed, public consultation will run for twelve weeks from Friday 4 July.

The twelve weeks of consultation will be held at a dozen public venues on the route as well as business events and one-to-one visits. Feedback will be used to finalise the scheme ahead of submitting an application to the government for a Transport and Works Act Order to construct and operate the new line.

The new Metrolink route will run from the Pomona stopThe new Metrolink route will run from the Pomona stop

Six new stations are planned for key destinations: Wharfside for Old Trafford, Imperial War Museum North, Trafford Park Village, Parkway, EventCity and the Trafford Centre.

The new line is proposed to be finished by 2019. However, this timescale is subject to funding and the necessary powers.

The new Metrolink route will run from the Pomona stop along the Manchester Ship Canal, following Trafford Wharf Road, Warren Bruce Road and through the village area of Trafford Park. It will then cross Park Circle and the Bridgewater Canal and terminate at the Trafford Centre.

The new line would serve more than 1,300 businesses and 35,000 jobs at Trafford Park alone. Further regeneration and economic growth in the area is expected including the new emerging media industry in the Trafford Wharfside area.

Imperial War Museum North

Imperial War Museum North

"Taking Metrolink to Trafford Park has long been an investment priority for Greater Manchester and we're making real inroads towards making that a reality," said Peter Cushing, Metrolink Director at Transport for Greater Manchester.

He continued: "Trafford Park is the largest major employment centre outside the city centre, with employees travelling from across the region. The new Metrolink line would vastly improve sustainable transport links to the area and give more people across Greater Manchester better access to jobs and leisure.

"Feedback from businesses and the wider public will be crucial in helping us to finalise the scheme ahead of applying for government powers later this year."

The proposed cost for the new route is £350 million and the Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) are actively seeking funding opportunities with the government.

So far the GMCA have initially approved £37 million of funding to begin work. This includes ten new trams to serve the line costing £2 million per vehicle.

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Comment - Excellent news for Manchester

If we can lose all the 'ifs' (if we can secure the money being the biggy) then this is excellent news.

The more Metrolink lines, the more the infrastructure develops. Good infrastructure is one of the hallmarks of a successful city.

Of course this line would be odd in that it's a spur that cunningly avoids all residential areas. But it does link employment heavy Trafford Park with the city centre. It also helps visitors and staff travelling to the Imperial War Museum North, to MUFC or the ITV part of MediaCityUK. 

But the big prize is linking The Trafford Centre to the City Centre via a smooth and comfortable modern transport system. People will be able to park for free at The Trafford Centre and scoot into the city thus immeasurably beefing up their entertainment and food and drink options. There'd be feedback the other way too.

What is clear is that the Metrolink service gives the areas it touches a boost. 

I use the tram from Firswood and the only real issue is how busy it gets with commuters from Chorlton and Didsbury. It doesn't break down half as frequently as people would have you believe and is a tremendous asset, although it does have enough problems to cause irritation. 

Similarly the lines to Rochdale and Ashton will in time prove their worth. As far as Metrolink lines are concerned - within reason - the more the merrier.

Jonathan Schofield


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89 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

AnonymousJune 13th 2014.

The vast majority of funding for this line should come from Peel Holdings since any economic benefits of this line will accrue overwhelmingly to this company.

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AnonymousJune 14th 2014.

But the stores with the Trafford Centre will also profit, shouldn't they also contribute? Peel Holdings are not the only ones that profit from that behemoth of a shopping mall. As hideous as I find the place, there seems to be enough people that want to visit, why should they not have a good transport system to get them there? By the way, haven't the stores in the city profited from better public transport? Perhaps they should pay more towards out transport infrastructures.

AnonymousJune 14th 2014.

Peel Holdings don't own the Trafford Centre

AnonymousJune 14th 2014.

the value of transport infratructure is crysallised in land values, buildings and the rent tenants pay. So yes, shop tenants do end up paying a contribution indirectly. Peel by the way are the largest land owner in and around trafford park and they are major shareholders in the company that owns the trafford centre which generates so much congestion, the costs of which are paid for by other people and businesses. If you're attempting to build lots of buildings in an unsustainable location, inaccessible to most people why on earth should the tax payer foot the whole bill for the public transport whilst the profits of these ventures are not re-invested for public good?

AnonymousJune 15th 2014.

Socialise the costs, privatise the benefits. Peel Holdings' business model in a nutshell.

AnonymousJune 15th 2014.

The Trafford Centre doesn't create a great deal of congestion, other than directly around the centre itself. The overwhelming majority of people affected by it are those who have chosen to go there. It's clearly not "inaccessible to most people", that's just nonsense.

AnonymousJune 15th 2014.

It's on the edge of the conurbation. Of course it's inaccessible to most people - the peripheral location guarantees that. And you don't think it creates congestion on the M60? Or the many roads serving the many businesses in and around that part if Trafford?

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Anon 3 - Peel DO still own the Trafford Centre cos they part own Intu...

StephenJune 18th 2014.

Anon 6. Are you serious about the TC not creating congestion? The ring road motorway gets clogged up for miles of a weekend going anticlockwise. Once you pass the TC it totally clears. That's totally down to the TC.

StephenJune 18th 2014.

Totally!!

AnonymousJune 14th 2014.

Crossrail in London is being one third funded by local businesses. The same model should be applied for new Metrolink lines in Manchester.

AnonymousJune 14th 2014.

Really Metrolink should also be looking at a link from the city centre to West Didsbury via Moss Side.

AnonymousJune 14th 2014.

The trams aren't needed in moss side the buses are really good. You can walk into town in no time.

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

There's an existing heavy rail line which runs from Old Trafford to the Trafford Centre along Barton Dock Road. Why can't this be converted into Metrolink - surely it would be a significantly cheaper option than a new line. Everything in this country seems to cost a ridiculous amount of money. Thankfully there are no residential properties in M17, so no NIMBY's complaining about "harm to their amenity" and other nonsense that belongs in the outer suburbs of Stockport. When Meadowhall was built in Sheffield it was accessible by rail, tram, bus, and car - the station even serves as a transport hub for that area of South Yorkshire. The Trafford Centre lacks a proper entrance, let alone proper transport connections. Build it. Sod the "concerned residents" of Castlefield, ditto the councillors who will no dobe oppose this...

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

For a start it doesn't go anywhere near where you need it to go.

Peter CoppingJune 16th 2014.

The Panning Consent for the Trafford Centre was a matter for Trafford Council and originally provided for a tram line which Peel then the owner was supposed to contribute (Nuff Said) Maybe in the interim a diesel 'tram along the Barton Dock Rd would an idea. or as a novelty a horse drawn one? Incidentally responses to planning proposals about loss of of amenity are usually not very relevant and dealt with I am sure by anticipation in pre-planning However shouting about NIMBY's and sodding the concerned resident show anonymous to be an habitue of the more disreputable bars in Tory Trafford not my cup of tea.

Calum McGJune 16th 2014.

Why would councillors oppose it? And perhaps you can name a few "concerned residents of Castlefield" cos I suspect most, like me, will support the growth of the network. Over to you!

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

I suspect Karney would oppose it on the grounds that it would give Mancunians a choice between the City Centre and the Traff. The other lad would have an opposing soundbyte so he could get in the MEN too. "Concerned residents of Castlefield" have caused the cost of the Ordsall Curve to almost double - well done, Ali :)

Calum McGJune 16th 2014.

Let's see the data on these doubling of costs then mate. It's still being designed and costs haven't been finalised... - well done, Anon.

GetJune 16th 2014.

Anon - that's total bollocks re the Ordsall Chord - the main objectors were MOSI and a railways consultant, not residents.

Rick22June 16th 2014.

I think they should go ahead with the canal link that has been talked about in the past rather than another metro extension. They could have a stop a Pomona, media city, Eccles and the trafford centre. It would be more of a tourist attraction and will be something different Let do something with a bit a character

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Just what we need - a barge to transfer people. Any thoughts on speed or convenience?

Calum McGJune 16th 2014.

Anon - have you BEEN on the Eccles line ;)

Rick22June 16th 2014.

Wow Anon! thanks for contributing! I wasn't talking about retro fitting a few canal barges!! the new River 'buses' can go around 25 - 30 knots. And since there will be no traffic or waiting for other trams to move off a line the journey times will be comparable to the tram. The last thing Trafford park needs is another reason to slow traffic! As for convenience how is walking to a canal stop less convenient than walking to a metro stop?

TomJune 16th 2014.

Rick - the tramline runs through the middle of the city centre and connects to the train and bus interchanges. The river runs along one edge of the city centre. That's how walking to a water taxi stop would be less convenient.

Rick22June 17th 2014.

Tom - there is currently no metro that goes to Spinningfield (one of the biggest employment zones in the city) and the canal goes right past the phones 4 you arena/Victoria. If you include all the developments planned for the Salford side of the canal over the next few years there will be plenty of requirement. As far as linking up with current transport net work Pomona borders the canal (and currently has no use) and Castlefield station could be easily linked as well as Victory at the other end

Jonathan Schofield - editorJune 16th 2014.

Honestly you lot, argue politely or not at all I'd say. For me the idea is a grand one. Connectivity is all. Although digitally it does attract a lot of angry people who choose to remain nameless which is annoying and cowardly.

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I can change my nameJune 16th 2014.

Er... if you don't like people commenting anonymously then remove the option! It's YOUR website. Introduce Facebook-based commenting like the MEN did, or at least remove the option to change one's commenting name at will.

Jonathan Schofield - editorJune 16th 2014.

But I actually like exercising the power to remove idiotic comments randomly under my own name while having a go at others who creep around under a cloak. It lightens the day

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

I used to sign in and post JS but I've been unable to for ages so I just post as an ANON. Sort the website out.

Ed GlinertJune 16th 2014.

A great idea but with one big mistake - as I shall be explaining to Metrolink. The new line is set to join the existing network at Pomona, and trams will continue east from there to Cornbrook to the city centre. Well, the current network can't cope with the existing lines, let alone another new line. No, the route should go the other way, from Pomona towards Anchorage and then onto a short section of new track, linking it with the rail tracks under the Regent Road/Albion Way roundabout, to reach town that way. Much more sensible and no extra congestion.

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Tick! I likes it. A bit more cross-linky too. They wouldn't listen to us regarding trams down deansgate though (which would have helped solve some of the tram congestion, though would probably have buggered up the road traffic).

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Errm, it's not 'much more sensible', for a number of reasons.

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Such as?????!

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

For starters, the fact that the line under the Regent Rd/Albion Way roundabout is a heavy rail mainline, and doesn't connect to the rest of the Metrolink network?

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

That line in question is about to be electrified for fast trains to Liverpool. Completely unsuitable for line sharing with the Metrolink. The heavy rail lines around Trafford Park are largely unused and conversion would cost a fraction of the cost.

Calum McGJune 16th 2014.

It's already electrified; the new FTPE trains are using it.

Ed GlinertJune 19th 2014.

A debate! Great stuff. At the consultation meeting a few summers ago, me, Tony Hill, head of MOSI, and a few other people tore Metrolink bosses to shreds over their botched Second City Crossing plans. Looking forward to doing the same again over this. But I'd like to respond to the responses here first. So there are really big trains under the Albion Way roundabout. Not a problem! Simply place new track for the trams alongside. No link with Metrolink? Wrong! It would link at Victoria onto the Bury & Rochdale lines.

TomJune 19th 2014.

Hmm. Interesting idea, but your idea seems to suggest that in the city centre you'd only be able to catch a direct tram to the new destinations from Victoria. I'm not sure that's optimal. A route using the existing lines out to Pomona would mean you could get a direct tram from Deansgate-Castlefield, SPSQ, and either Piccadilly Gardens and Piccadilly Station, or Exchange Square. Using the route of the existing railway line would also mean that there would be a long length of tram route that doesn't really serve anywhere (no offence, Ordsall) - kinda missing the point of being a metro system. You're also assuming that there is space on the existing heavy rail alignment for an additional pair of tracks, all the way into Victoria, and that it would be feasible practical provide a connection to the existing route at Victoria. I'm also not sure about the system not being able to cope with the current volume of trams - that's a physical fault with the tracks - when the tracks and points aren't malfunctioning, the system seems to deal with the volume of trams fine.

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

For starters, the fact that the line under the Regent Rd/Albion Way roundabout is a heavy rail mainline, and doesn't connect to the rest of the Metrolink network?

Kevin PeelJune 16th 2014.

A great new addition to the growing tram network which will improve connectivity for workers and hopefully boost visitors to the city centre.

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Or you know to the trafford centre where it's clean and tidy...

TishieJune 16th 2014.

It is already nigh on impossible to park at the Trafford Centre at peak times - if we now have people parking there for free and going into Manchester on the Metro, the place will be impossible to get in or out of!

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TomJune 16th 2014.

Would people do that, considering they'll have to pay to use the tram? Will they not just drive into town?

TishieJune 16th 2014.

If you drive into Manchester you’re faced with astronomical parking charges so it’s cheaper on the Metro. But it is difficult to park near to many Metro stations around where I am so it would certainly be easier to park at the Trafford Centre and go in on the metro.

I can change my nameJune 16th 2014.

Depends how many people you need to buy tram tickets for though, doesn't it? Might well be more expensive to buy tram tickets for, for example, a family of four, than to park in town.

SAZKJune 16th 2014.

As someone else has already mentioned the uni car park near sackville street is only 2 quid a day at weekends so even if it's just one of you going into town it works out cheaper than public transport! And much more convenient

TishieJune 16th 2014.

It is already nigh on impossible to park at the Trafford Centre at peak times - if we now have people parking there for free and going into Manchester on the Metro, the place will be impossible to get in or out of!

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Why do that? You can park all day at the multi story just off the Mancunian way for £2 a day or on the other side of town you can park off Rochdale rd 5 mins from the northern quarter for £1 a day.

shkJune 16th 2014.

It just makes sense to have the Metrolink run out to the Trafford Centre, so we all have the choice of where to shop and how to get there.

MarkkennedyJune 16th 2014.

Great I can go there twice in a decade...il go to liverpool instead its only a fiver and itl be empty..cos all the scousers will be at the trafford centre....lets face it the citys are dying. .until we give the shops back to the creative shopkeeper its a dull life we will live..im glad I spent my youth pre bomb...bored bored bored...I prefer liverpool anyway

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rinkydinkJune 16th 2014.

Liverpool is incomparable to Manchester. There is nothing there

Mark FullerJune 17th 2014.

Oh Rinky how can you say that? Yes Manchester is now a bigger, more cosmopolitan city than Liverpool, it feels like the capital of northern England. But to say that there is nothing in Liverpool is so wrong. Take the train over there and have a look at the Cathedrals, the galleries and museums, the iconic waterfront; and if you like shopping, Liverpool One. I think it will be an eye opener for you.

Calum McGJune 17th 2014.

Mark - are you quite sure the cities are dying? Manchester is thriving! Happy to give you a tour. Liverpool is also starting to look superb - lots of regen going on. Wasn't dying when I was there in Feb.

Helen RogersJune 16th 2014.

As an aside to the Trafford Centre link: As an outer suburb of Stockport resident, I would love a tram link to come to Stockport and even beyond...no chance of that ever happening though, due to the terrain and the railway line axes that took place around Dr. Beeching's era. A non-road link from the outer suburbs to Stockport centre would hugely reduce the awful traffic congestion in this part of Greater Manchester...monorail?

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AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Why can't the East Dids line be extended to Stockport along the disused railway? That will happen eventually. And anything in the way will be demolished.

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

1) we have the Trafford centre & other bits. They are there to stay. Yes, it should have had a tram as a compulsory part of planning but that ship has sailed. It causes the whole west M60 to gridlock at times, so let's try and alleviate as much as possible. 2) peel also own event city, which is getting a stop. 3) no one seems to mention the possible impact on the city centre of making it even easier to shop there. 4) as a rule, more infrastructure has to be good. It creates opportunities and encourages development , which brings jobs and retains important companies. We operate in a national and global market and Trafford park is supposed to be a key employment zone. It is important to the whole region that it does well. If the facilities are poor, then why should we expect people to locate there?

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

So Peel should pay.

AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Not sure if this is the best option? From what I understand Cornbrook can't cope now without adding to the problem. I fail to see why we can't have an underground system. They don't stop due to car crashes or ice being on the tracks, they are so much more reliable and with a much bigger capacity. Manchester should be pushing for an underground system to rival New York, Tokyo, Munich, Rome and London not trying to have a better tram network than Blackpool. Trafford Park is one of the busiest places in the country for retail, sport, media and employment. An underground system that linked to the met near town would be better.

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AnonymousJune 16th 2014.

Are you John Whittaker of Peel Holdings?

TomJune 17th 2014.

"I fail to see why we can't have an underground system" You don't know much then, do you?

TomJune 17th 2014.

The rest of the country envies Manchester for the Metrolink.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Tom I can assure you they don't. I'm proud of my city and want what's best for it. An underground network would be so much better than the metro. It's expensive, unreliable and is to much at the mercy of daft drivers bringing the system to a holt.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

And how expensive do you think an underground network would be? We're not New York, Tokyo, London etc, so to suggest we could ever achieve a network to rival them is simply ridiculous.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

I don't mean expensive to build I mean expensive to use. I'm not saying we are New York or London, but if those cities see the benefit of having an underground then shouldn't we? I've used the underground in Hamburg, are we comparable to Hamburg? It's so much better than the metrolink. It has a much bigger capacity, it's cheaper to get about on and it doesn't grind to a halt all the time due to the elements or traffic on the roads.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Right, and how expensive do you think our underground would be to use, considering the costs of constructing the thing? It's like you think no-one in power has considered such an idea before. It's not going to happen.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

I don't think anyone in power has thought of it. Spending of infrastructure in the north isn't really important to people in London. All I know is I've used the underground in various cities all over the world and none of them are as expensive as using the metro. Yeah it costs a lot to build but the money spent on the metro isn't lose change is it?

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

I'm afraid that the more you post, the further you demonstrate how little you know on this subject.

paulsouthernJune 17th 2014.

I use the Manchester underground every day, along with the helipad on Victoria station roof! www.bbc.co.uk/…/uk-england-manchester-17160098…

Calum McGJune 17th 2014.

Loads of medium-sized cities across Europe have underground systems (try Malaga, for example). So it's bullshit to say it couldn't happen. It could if people wanted it to. Of course it won't, because we are too London-centric with our transport $ and places like us and Brum miss out.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

No-one said it "couldn't" happen. Simply that it won't happen, and that it wouldn't be an effective use of money.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Yay, more negative whinging anon posters. FFS.

Jonathan Schofield - editorJune 17th 2014.

Paul Southern if you want a proper article about the helipad and other things, stick with us. What do the BBC know? www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/…/Best-of-MCRThe-Buildings-That-Never-Got-Built…

Jonathan Schofield - editorJune 17th 2014.

As soon as the new site is built then the Anons will be banned

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Why on this thread they are largely inoffensive and having a great debate, Its actualy healthly! its only really a problem where people are offensive isnt it? And I fail to see the diference between anons and all these made up names anyway.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Spell check.

ShybaldbuddhistJune 17th 2014.

I don't see why we shouldn't be asking for an underground system. If places like Malaga and Hamburg have them why shouldn't Manchester? We should be taking as much traffic off the roads as possible. Trams that run on the road, like the Eccles line, are far too slow and unreliable, and not to mention small. One large event in the area be it a United game, Parklife, Concert at the Etihad or a failure at Cornbrook and it clear to see the capacity is nowhere near enough and the system crumbles. We should be demanding an underground system that joins up all of Greater Manchester.

TomJune 17th 2014.

Hamburg's was mostly built around 1910. Malaga's was built at a time of widely-condemned public exorbitance in Spain. The point is, underground railways are an extremely expensive form of rapid transit that only make economic sense to build in large, high-density cities, which Manchester is not. The local authorities had to fight like angry bears to get the funding for the Metrolink extensions from central government. The arguments about cost and politics are actually beside the point when the reality is that Metrolink IS built (and expanding) and we have spent over 20 years investing in it. Would it make ANY sense to start developing an underground now? No. I love subway systems and I've dreamt of there being one in Manchester, so I'm sorry to say this, but it's a fantasy. There's better things to put practical efforts and energy into - like finding ways to improve the system we HAVE got - than pining about what could've been should've been.

TomJune 17th 2014.

Oops - the point about the difficulty funding Metrolink expansion was that an underground would be vastly more expensive, and thus would be vastly more difficult to achieve funding for.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Well put Tom. Demanding vast sums of money for a pie-in-the-sky underground system would simply make us look stupid, when our local government has actually done a pretty good job in obtaining the funding for Metrolink in recent years.

Poster BoyJune 17th 2014.

More connectivity and more efficient public transport is to be welcomed but the sole beneficiary of Metrolink terminating at the Trafford Centre will be the Trafford Centre. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a naive fantasist. There has been and continues to be, a complete abrogation of responsibility by Trafford Council in the requirement for the provision and funding of public transport when permitting development at Dumplington Circle.

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Calum McGJune 17th 2014.

So none of the footy supporters who will alight next to Old Trafford, nor the thousands of workers who work in Trafford Park?

Poster BoyJune 17th 2014.

Oh Ali McG read my lips. The comment refers to a Metrolink terminating at the Trafford Centre. Not alighting at Pomona, or Wharfside or any other stations in Trafford Park. The clue was in the word 'terminating'...

Calum McGJune 17th 2014.

I don't get what point your making. Of course the beneficiary will be the Trafford Centre... cos it stops there... and I cannot read your lips cos I cannot see you. But thanks for your patronising reply. :)

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

I suspect the point was, why the taxpayer should fund the extension of the line ALL THE WAY through to the Trafford Centre itself- given the role it has played in decimating our local town centres without truly contributing to the development of the wider city region economy- specifically through tax avoidance plus the requirements it placed upon the public purse to improve the road networks around here? Yes build it to the Imperial War Museum North, yes to Wharfside (for Old Trafford) and yes create a stops to Trafford Business Park to improve connectivity for workers there. But if Peel want THEIR Trafford Centre and Event City connecting (to inflate the value of THEIR land) they should be paying for it not schmoozing Trafford Council yet again for handouts.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

Well said the Anon above me.

AnonymousJune 17th 2014.

"The Trafford Centre's taste in exotic lamps is...er...distinctive" haha yes! That horrible bad taste 'chandelier'. To think that some people who use the Trafford Centre, avoiding the city centre, do so because they think the place is classy!

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AnonymousJune 19th 2014.

It has a vulgar charm, the nearest Manchester comes to Las Vegas excess.

Amanda EveryJune 20th 2014.

I couldn't give a stuff who pays for it, I'll chuck in a tenner meself if it helps. Just "build it and they will come," Manc.

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