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City Centre Residents Parking Permit Scheme?

Alternative parking permit scheme is considered for City Centre’s ‘Zone Three’

Written by . Published on February 3rd 2012.

City Centre Residents Parking Permit Scheme?

THE public are being asked their opinions regarding a proposed parking permit scheme for Manchester city centre residents.

The first consultation will concern zone three in the city centre which includes the large arc from Castlefield to Piccadilly basin.

Under the proposed changes, city centre residents would be able to purchase permits for zone three areas, choosing from a range of permits for parking on street at various times to suit their needs.

“We’re hoping to introduce a new system which will be more flexible for people living in the city centre, enabling them to buy a range of permits depending on people’s individual circumstances."

This could be 8am-9am and 5pm-8pm on weekdays and 8am-8pm on weekends, or 8am-8pm Monday to Sunday. Permits would cover a year, six-month or three-month period, and cost from £250 to £750 per year. 

According to the Council, the permits would offer up to a 90 per cent reduction on the equivalent pay and display prices, which currently apply from Monday to Sunday 8am-8pm, excluding bank holidays, and cost from 65p for up to 30 minutes, to £4 for up to three hours.

Zone two residents would still be able to buy permits for zone three, but a separate consultation into parking permits for zone two – which includes Quay Street, Portland Street, the Northern Quarter and Deansgate – will take place later this year.

Councillor Nigel Murphy, Manchester City Council’s executive member for the environment, said: “We’re hoping to introduce a new system which will be more flexible for people living in the city centre, enabling them to buy a range of permits depending on people’s individual circumstances.

“We think the proposals are a huge improvement on the existing scheme which has become outdated but we look forward to hearing people’s views.”

The City Council webpage about the consultation is here. The form to fill in for comment is here.  

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Stephen DouglasFebruary 6th 2012.

A zone 3 permit currently costs £35 for 3 months, or £140 per year. Even ignoring any discount for paying for a year up front, it's almost doubled in price.

So much for "It is not our intention to disadvantage City Centre residents [with the parking changes]"

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CJSFebruary 7th 2012.

We said at the Council's consultation meeting that it was no good charging us extra for the hours of free parking the council have just taken away. And that is exactl;y what thye have done by more than doubling the cost for the extra hours they took away (despite hundreds of objections and very dubious justifications). while most bays in Zone 3 sit empty all day and now into the evening, all day Saturday and now Sunday. Thanks for nothing Manchester CC.

Kevin PeelFebruary 6th 2012.

I'm really pleased with the proposals the council have come up with for the first phase of this new residents parking scheme. I and my colleague Joan Davies have been campaigning for the last 12 months for this and the proposals reflect what we and residents put to the council at the focus groups I organised last autumn.

This isn't the whole scheme - plans will be put forward for zone 2 later in the year - but it's a good start and will give residents a scheme that is easier to join, more flexible and better value for money.

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Stephen DouglasFebruary 6th 2012.

No Kev, it's (at least) doubled in price, there's no way you can claim it's better value for money.

Kevin PeelFebruary 6th 2012.

Hi Stephen. Value for money isn't just about the price. I think the overall package reflects a good deal for residents. And the second phase to be consulted on later this year will give an even better deal.

Stephen DouglasFebruary 6th 2012.

I disagree, and won't be paying it. Murphy will just have to put up with me parking in Hulme for free, when I was happy to pay a sensible amount to park nearer my flat.

The 2nd phase is irrelevant to me. And by your comments, I gether we can assume "an even better deal" will mean "it costs even more".

Stephen DouglasFebruary 6th 2012.

Alternatively, perhaps the councillor would care to explain what added benefits I get for my extra £110 per year? I don't need flexibility. I don't need visitors passes. I don't need full day passes. So what would I be getting? In what way is it better value for money?

Nigel HuntingtonFebruary 7th 2012.

Nice one Steven. We live off Liverpool Road and are quite happy paying the £140'ish a year for our permit as we only use it for a few hours in the morning / evening / weekend due to work.
Since the increase in parking charges the number of cars using parking meters had decreased significantly ie less people coming into Manchester to spend their money ( Manchester CC please note ).
'Value for money isn't just about the price ' - hmmmm.....lets see what the full 'consultation ' bring next.

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AnonymousFebruary 9th 2012.

For the price it costs to go shopping in the city centre now at the weekend, I wouldn't be surprised if most people give up bothering all together and spend the petrol to go to the Trafford Centre where the parking is free. I feel sorry for the people trying to make a living in the local shops!

user1770February 8th 2012.

As has always been, Manchester remains a great city despite the cretins in charge trying their best to ruin it. I wonder if it's actually this continuing idiocy that gives the place it's wonderful spirit, perhaps we should be thanking them?

Or maybe burning them as liars and thieves would be more appropriate.

Stephen DouglasFebruary 9th 2012.

The consultation is out at www.manchester.gov.uk/…/2… if you wish to leave your opinions.

The quarterly price has rocketed from £35 to £75 with corresponding increases in the 6 & 12 monthly permits. As predicted, there is nothing there that makes this "better value" in any way - apart from the relaxed eligibility criteria and the availablility of a 24/7 permit (which I don't need), it's the same scheme as before, but over twice as expensive.

I don't know what the council were taking that lets them claim this is better value, but I want some.

AnonymousFebruary 9th 2012.

Down with this sort of thing!

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AnonymousFebruary 9th 2012.

careful now...

Kevin PeelFebruary 9th 2012.

A resident in the city centre who just wants a permit to cover the charging hours outside 9-5 can get a permit from as little as £20.83 per month. I think this represents great value for money given the cost of paying for parking for the hours covered, or renting an off-street space. I hope residents will submit comments and ensure we get the best scheme we can.

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Stephen DouglasFebruary 9th 2012.

Glad to see you're referring to it as great value for money, as opposed to better value for money than the existing scheme (which it demonstrably isn't)

Lauren SandersonFebruary 9th 2012.

Consultation???? Since when do MCC EVER listen to city centre residents?! I can't believe they've had the cheek to increase the charges so much and claim it's a good offer! And there are only 100 spaces available- not enough I suspect!

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Stephen DouglasFebruary 9th 2012.

Ha, didn't see the bit about 100 spaces being available (I think they updated it since I looked) - there's nearly half that many spaces totally empty just on my section of my street since the changes came in!

Isabella JacksonFebruary 9th 2012.

Nice to see Cllr. Peel on the Manchester Confidential web site actually saying something. Something more than
" can't wait to try this place!!!" or "can't wait for this to open!!!", that is. Bah. Consultation my ass....

Mark JaggerFebruary 10th 2012.

wake up mcc!..you have chased trade away between 6-8pm MON,TUES,WED, in the nether areas already.People want to cheer themselves up and have a cheap night for a film/ meal/ drink, BUT as they do the maths before they leave Bury/Bolton/Rochdale they realize a cheap 'impulsive' early evening trip is no longer possible.
Forget the resident permits, the way mcc are going on there is going to be lots and lots of cheap parking space in the next 2years......just nothing left to buy/eat/watch/enjoy.....We just about have enough time to come up with a radical long term promotion of our city and it involves the notion of FREE PARKING!!! ASK the Peel Empire how its working for them so far!!

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user1770February 10th 2012.

How is this so obvious to us and yet they continue to appear oblivious?!

Mark JaggerFebruary 10th 2012.

Lock enough public servants in a room for long enough and all sorts of mad ideas make perfect sense.Impliment those great ideas into the real world with real people and those ideas are exposed to daylight............We are real, THEY......

AnonymousFebruary 10th 2012.

I agree that the City parking has “killed” the business. I now go to Trafford Centre for my shopping, meal and cinema and go to the theatre outside the city centre. If I have to (a must) go to the theatre in the city then I do but avoid having a meal. I use to park in the city centre and pay for an hour’s parking on the meter and then spend early evening shopping, meal, and finish the rest of the evening going the theatre, cinema or restaurant.

Lauren SandersonFebruary 10th 2012.

I have asked the Council how the permits will be allocated as I do not believe that 100 will be enough, bearing in mind that Zone 2 residents can also apply for Zone 3 permits until their 'consultation' later in the year. I have also asked them to justify the cost almost doubling. I have lived in the city centre for almost 7 years now and as a car owner, have felt hounded by the Council year after year. Grr!!!!

AnonymousFebruary 10th 2012.

Another money making scheme by MCC it seems which will only result in more trade been driven away from the city centre. I used to nip into town after work 2 or 3 times a week to shop but have now resorted to using out of town shopping such as The Fort / Regent Road because of the convenience and yes, I know that I SHOULD be more green and use public transport or SHOULD pay for parking but, judging by the number of empty spaces after 6pm, I'm not the only one. It would be interesting to know if restaurant / shopping trade has been seriously affected by the recent parking changes before embarking on yet another money making scheme. A colleague mentioned that the queue in Primark a couple of days ago was an eighth of the normal size, perhaps this is a good litmus test as any:)

AnonymousFebruary 10th 2012.

News just in, motorists upset about something & need their boo-boos kissing better at the Trafford Centre. Can we have a moratorium on this response please, if you're going to sell your soul to that place for free parking just do it and don't advertise the fact, nobody cares & it does you no favours.

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Mark JaggerFebruary 10th 2012.

Now then who said I've ever been to the trafford centre?? I love the city, but I can actually see that people who have invested in the city are being undermined, well intentioned minorities among the council supporters need to realise that we need to attract the misguided Traffordistas to spend in the city, without feeling harangued and fleeced!

AnonymousFebruary 10th 2012.

Which is why, of course, the Trafford Centre recorded record profits and footfall last year. As for 'that place', it has everything that Manchester city centre has - all the wannabe designer-chasers can shop in Selfridge's and the remaining shops are exactly the same as anywhere else. Manchester has become just another faceless facade of the same shops, restaurants and outlets - it has nothing left to offer that is different and now the Council think it's prudent to increase parking fees, parking limits and double the charge to residents. Nice.

JohnthebriefFebruary 10th 2012.

I love the way they are coming out with this "consultation" several months after introducing the longer charging hours. Surely this scheme should have been put in place first?

Anyone suggesting the council has any priority in parking other than squeezing every possible cent out of motorists is deluded or a liar.

How's the "congestion" looking these days, Kevin? Why don't you stop apologising for the villains doing this kind of thing and stand up for residents, you gutless lickspittle?

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Isabella JacksonFebruary 10th 2012.

'Cos he's too busy waiting to try the next new restaurant / bar / coffee shop. Kevin 'can't wait 'Peel........

Marc RamsbottomFebruary 13th 2012.

I agree with the majority of comments, that the new scheme is woefully inadequate and represents a massive hike in price. Contrast this with the residents parking scheme operating in Bristol - www.bristol.gov.uk/…/residents%E2%80%99-parking-schemes….
The Council there only charges £50 per year to residents.

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