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New Tram To The Trafford Centre by 2019?

The new 5.5km route “building momentum”

Written by . Published on December 4th 2013.


New Tram To The Trafford Centre by 2019?
 

TRANSPORT leaders will discuss the new proposed Metrolink route to the Trafford Centre on Friday.

The Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) has already approved the initial funds to get the project ‘shovel ready’, including around £20 million for ten new trams to serve the line.

The 5.5km route will leave the existing tram stop at Pomona, from here it will run along the Ship Canal before following Trafford Wharf Road and Warren Bruce Road running through the Village area of Trafford Park.

The new route shall then cross Parkway Circle and the Bridgewater Canal before finishing up at the Trafford Centre.

While station names have not yet been decided, it is likely that there will be tram stops close to key destinations such as: Old Trafford, The Imperial War Museum, Trafford Park Village, Parkway Circle, EventCity and finally the Trafford Centre.

Trafford Centre routeTrafford Centre route (from right to left): Pomona, Wharfside, IWM, Village, Parkway Circle, EventCity, Trafford Centre

Councillor Andrew Fender, Chair of the TfGM Committee, said: “This is an important step on the road to delivering this new line, which would be a fantastic addition to what is already a flagship centre for business and tourism.

“The route has evolved over time and better reflects how the area it would serve has developed – and continues to develop – since an original set of plans were approved back in 2001.

“There is a great deal of work ahead of us before we can start to think of shovels hitting the ground, but I’m really pleased that it is building momentum and I look forward to more progress being made in the coming months and years.”

The scheme shall be put forward for public consultation next year before a formal application is put to the government for the statutory powers needed to go ahead.

Securing the powers would mean that work could begin once funding has been confirmed.

The Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) has already approved the initial funds to get the project ‘shovel ready’, including around £20 million for ten new trams to serve the line.

It is estimated that construction of the new line could be completed by 2019.

This is great news for the city centre too.

People can park for free at the Trafford Centre, hop on the tram to the city centre, do the shopping, go to the theatre, take in a gallery, have a meal...enjoy the wide variety of the city.

A ghostly tramA ghostly tram

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42 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

IanDecember 4th 2013.

long time to build a 3 mile tram track

DavidDecember 4th 2013.

London today got one billion pounds from the infrastructure pot to extend the underground.Our local politicians do absolutely nothing to change this,no matter which party is in government so we have to wait years to get anything done.Our new trains are mostly the second hand,cast offs of the Southern train companies.Our council sold part of its ownership to buy Stansted Airport.Why did they not instead choose to invest that money in Metrolink expansion in their own region,rather than a London airport?

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AnonymousDecember 4th 2013.

Council announce planned investment. David finds reason to criticise council. Plus ca change.

DavidDecember 4th 2013.

Would Boris Johnson invest London's money in Metrolink?.Of course not.So why is Manchester Council investing in London airports?.Sure they can get a return from profits of Stansted,but they could have chosen to profit from the expansion of Metrolink.

crisbyDecember 4th 2013.

I'd be very surprised if profits from Metrolink equate to those from having a stake in an airport!

JoanDecember 4th 2013.

Economies of scale.

DavidDecember 5th 2013.

What profits of scale Joan?.Most of airports MAG wasted Monet buying make no money.Yet at same time there has been no significant investment in Manchester Airport since the second runway was built in the 1990s.So much for the benefits of public ownership Joan.

DavidDecember 5th 2013.

Manchester airport is crying out for more modern spacious terminal buildings.The current facilities are outdated. By investing in Stansted your council Joan is encouraging more airlines to use London Airports instead of encouraging the growth of regional ones like Manchester.That means more families forced to trek down to London to access flights that are not available from Manchester.Try looking at the number,price and range of flights RyanAir offer from Stansted compared to Manchester.

AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Terminal 1 was refurbished a couple of years ago. Neither of the other two terminals are overcrowded, nor falling apart. The fact is that you are, as usual, attempting to mould the facts to fit your prejudices. There are more flights from Stansted because it serves London and because it is an airport that, by and large, exists for low-cost airlines; no amount of your partisan moaning is going to change that fact.

AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

We are getting money for the Rail Hub. Victoria is closed for nine days over te holiday to install the wires and the opening date is Dec 2014 for the Manchester Liverpool bit. The rest follows by 2020.

AnonymousDecember 6th 2013.

London gets more money because it generates more money. It also has the many more people: ten times as many people travel on the Northern Line every day as there are on Metrolink. Currently the UK Government spends £3bn/year more on Greater Manchester than it raises in tax from the region. However, I do agree that Manchester Airport is a disgrace. The buildings are old, tired and an embarrassing entry to the UK and region. They are not world-class at all. I'm hoping that HS2 will force a complete redesign of the site and we'll get an integrated HS2 Station-Airport as they have in Hong Kong. We just need to get the proposed HS2 station moved to the other side of the M56!

Poster BoyDecember 4th 2013.

"People can park for free at the Trafford Centre, hop on the tram to the city centre, do the shopping, go to the theatre, take in a gallery, have a meal...enjoy the wide variety of the city". Dream on...

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AnonymousDecember 4th 2013.

My thoughts exactly - who are they trying to kid - obviously the Manchester city center business community who pay high cc rates, as if people would do the return trip from the TC to CC for shopping....

AnonymousDecember 4th 2013.

the cost of two adult return tickets will pay a good chunk of parking costs within walking distance of the city centre

AnonymousDecember 4th 2013.

I thought the whole purpose of building that place was for the convenience of motorists!!!

Prince_HarmingDecember 4th 2013.

And perhaps by 2019, we'll be allowed to take dogs on there, too.

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rinkydinkDecember 5th 2013.

I sincerely hope not

Mum And Dad XDecember 4th 2013.

Might not be alive to use it by then!!

DavidDecember 4th 2013.

If Manchester council and the other Greater Manchester councils sold their stake in ownership of MAG they would have enough money to fund the expansion of Metrolink to every part of Greater Manchester.Judging by the lack of any significant recent investment in the poor quality of the buildings public ownership has bought few benefits.

rinkydinkDecember 4th 2013.

Yet more trams to go through Cornbrook? Are Transport for Greater Manchester taking LSD? They certainly seem to inhabit some parallel universe. The service is a joke as it is. More lines are needed out of town to circumvent problems on existing tracks. More destinations should come only when this is done

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AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Completely agree with you RD. The tram system doesn't work as it is. Further expansion is not going to help. Money should be spent fixing the signalling problems before investing in a new line.

Hero
Hall of Hall HallDecember 4th 2013.

Spend the money on the city centre - rather than providing a transport system to a destination that many would consider to be the worst place on earth....

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ShybaldbuddhistDecember 4th 2013.

Many may think that, but millions still go there. If the met gets cars off the road then that's a good thing.

DavidDecember 5th 2013.

Why are the owners of the Trafford Centre not paying for this as they will see the main benefit?.The value of their asset will be significantly larger with the benefit of tram access for customers and staff.

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AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

I thought they were supposed to pay something towards the extension

Hero
Penny CloustonDecember 5th 2013.

Who do you think could own the land that the track will be running on?

Chris SawyerDecember 5th 2013.

Dont forget all those poor people who work in Trafford Park, for them this will be a godsend.

AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Haven't any of these city centre or Trafford Centre shoppers heard of the internet? Why do people pay more for the misery going shopping in physical shops and why should the rest of us build new tram lines to help them do it?

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AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Some people still like to hold before they buy

AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Judging by my walking round the markets and the center they are not BUYING a lot there.

SleuthDecember 5th 2013.

Anonymous (the original comment here) well done. That's Sleuth's Stupid Comment Of The Week.

AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Oh ok then, lets just forget the hundreds of people employed at the Trafford Centre and associated services. Sack them so we can all shop at home. Best idea of the day.

JoanDecember 5th 2013.

Reply to David's various contributions on airports and trams: the two airports, Manchester and Stanstead, are very different. I'm certainly not going to use the range of Ryanair offerings as a major criterion on which to judge quality and success. Manchester has much more to offer and caters for a range of business and leisure travellers. MAG's purchase of Stanstead has not grabbed funds which would otherwise have gone to Metrolink, but it has allowed the group to gain economies of scale common in the industry. A firm without economies of scale operating in an industry where they are common can over time find itself uncompetitive, which is not what we want for Manchester.

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DavidDecember 5th 2013.

There has been no benefit to customers of Manchester Airport from MAG failed policy of buying other airports Joan. You claim Manchester Airport and Stansted are very different airports that not true.For the first decade of this century Manchester made the disastrous business decision to ignore budget airlines,leading to the massive growth of Liverpool Airport.They thought they were the Heathrow of the north and going to attract lots long haul routes.There spectacular failure and falling passenger numbers forced them to go after Easyjet and Ryanair to grow passenger numbers.In that respect they just same as Stansted.Please tell me Joan one benefit the customers of Manchester Airport have got from this purchase?.

AnonymousDecember 5th 2013.

Finally Pomona will have a purpose if only as an interchange rather than being a place for the revenue collectors to pounce on trams. Having worked in Trafford Park this would have definitely been useful rather than taking the meandering 250 route out of town after a journey into town from home, but I have to agree that unless something is done about the points at Cornbrook then I don't see how the Metrolink network will have the capacity to take the volume of traffic. Metrolink released a statement during October/November saying how they were working on the points and that the power lines were going to be teflon coated but I can't seem to find it now after the debacle this morning with the points breaking. Assuming that the Eccles/Media City and Altrincham lines were to run 6 minute services and Didsbury and airport extension at every 12 minutes, then that would mean a tram stopping at Cornbrook every 2 minutes before even considering additional traffic from the Trafford Centre. I've heard a rumour that there are works to improve Deansgate-Castlefield by providing additional platforms but no news on Cornbrook improvements. Can you find anything more out, David Blake?

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rinkydinkDecember 5th 2013.

For Revenue Collectors read "Rude Marauding Armies of Chavs"

rinkydinkDecember 5th 2013.

Oh and also this morning when I called to ask what the 'Technical Fault' was exactly, the customer service drone said she didn't know. When pressed further she said she thought it was "an earlier failed vehicle or something". Idiotic, patronising and frankly, lying. Brilliant

Ian ChristieDecember 8th 2013.

Yes, Anon, Deansgate-Castlefield station is being redesigned to have 3 lines instead of 2 and a new inbound central platform serving two lines opposite the existing outbound platform. For more info go to www.manchester.gov.uk/…/publicaccess… and insert ref number 103196/LO/2013/C1

JoanDecember 5th 2013.

David: Stanstead was only finally acquired in February of this year so tangible benefits will largely be in the future. I have no access to figures beyond those in the public domain. The 2012-2013 Annual Report can be viewed here www.manchesterairport.co.uk/…/MAG+Annual+Report+1213.pdf…. I recall pages 7 and 10 have relevance, but the report only includes a month of Stanstead figures. Interesting reading material though, for those who like facts and clear arguments.

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DavidDecember 5th 2013.

Instead of selling your stake in MAG Joan so you could buy a London Airport why did you not invest the money in Greater Manchester in the airport or in the transport infrastructure.That would actually benefit the people your supposed to represent. Also Joan your council now have a financial interest in more government spending on transport in the South East.Thats because for Stansted to be able to compete with Gatwick and Heathrow it needs to shorten the time of the rail connection to London.That will require a large amount of government spending,money that could have been spent here in Manchester.

rinkydinkDecember 5th 2013.

Joan and David, you'd make a great couple. Just sayin

Ian ChristieDecember 8th 2013.

AsTrams4Deansgate and I never tire of pointing out – well, actually that’s not really true – I DO tire of it – indeed I think I must go and lie down for a bit in a darkened room before continuing – ah, that's better – to continue – as I always tire of pointing out, tram delays at Cornbrook are not simply a matter of points or IT failure but are a capacity problem. At the moment 5 services converge at Cornbrook on to one line into the city centre. When the Wythenshawe/Manchester Airport line opens and if the Trafford Centre/Port Salford line gets built, there will then be 7 services converging on to one line. With 12 minute intervals on all lines, this simply isn’t do-able without congestion. A neat solution is at hand: the junction at Cornbrook station could be redesigned and the line between Cornbrook and Deansgate-Castlefield doubled from 2 to 4 lines by opening up the disused viaduct which runs alongside the existing lines. Then 2 lines should go off down Deansgate to Victoria and the other two to St Peter’s Square. But TfGM have already rejected this Deansgate option for the ‘Second City Crossing’ choosing Cross Street instead and they’re going to build a new 2 platform 4 line station at St Peter’s Square. As this is their preferred option, the obvious thing to do as well is to double up the lines on the slope from Deansgate-Castlefield down to St Peter’s Square. Until there are 4 lines from Cornbrook to St Peters’ Square, there’ll always be a bottleneck and always tram jams.

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