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"Devolution!" Cries MCR And Other Core Cities

Spread powers so cities can create their own future rather split the UK

Published on May 8th 2014.


"Devolution!" Cries MCR And Other Core Cities
 

UK cities are calling for the Government to focus on devolution to cities, rather than just regions, to drive UK growth and boost jobs. 

"The fact of the matter is that Glasgow has more in common with cities such as Liverpool and Manchester than we do with much of the rest of Scotland.

Meeting in Glasgow for the first time, the Core Cities Cabinet which comprises the leaders of the eight largest cities in England outside London have issued a joint declaration with Glasgow in Scotland to state that devolving more power to cities is a more radical constitutional agenda than establishing a border at Carlisle. 

Greater freedoms will give the UK’s cities the power to create more jobs and grow their economies.

Both sides of the border, the UK’s cities need better connectivity rather than greater separation and the English Core Cities and Glasgow in Scotland will continue to work together in the belief that a new age of cities offers a truly radical and exciting vision for a wealthier, fairer and more balanced Britain.

Sir Richard Leese, Leader, Manchester City Council and Chair, Core Cities Cabinet said: "The Core Cities and Glasgow have a great deal in common and we share a proud history of industrial ingenuity. We are here to talk about our shared future as drivers of the UK economy. 

“Both the Core Cities and Glasgow are in favour of radical constitutional change but do not believe this should be left to be a tussle between parliaments. Instead greater freedoms to our nation’s cities should be granted, starting with the devolution of property taxes. 


“There is also a desperate need to build better connectivity and by working together, for example to deliver HS2, we will make life better for people and businesses in every UK city. This should be our shared vision.”

Councillor Gordon Matheson, Leader, Glasgow City Council said:

"The fact of the matter is that Glasgow has more in common with cities such as Liverpool and Manchester than we do with much of the rest of Scotland.

"I welcome this powerful intervention against separatism from my fellow city leaders. The issues they face from an over-dominant London economy and government centralism are the same that Glasgow faces.

"The answer is to radically devolve power and resources to city regions across Britain so we can grow our economies and make a bigger contribution to GDP; not to erect a border at Carlisle, create huge uncertainty over currency and regulatory frameworks, and turn people from Newcastle into foreigners." 

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49 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

Poster BoyMay 8th 2014.

More pro-Union PR...

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AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

Good.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

More censorship.A editor who knows nothing of media ethics or chooses to ignore them.

GimboidMay 8th 2014.

Or simply understands that they don't apply to to troll-like user comments on a website.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

The voice of the council Gimboid returns.No doubt to claim he not really a supporter of the council later.

GimboidMay 8th 2014.

Repetition begets repetition.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

Accusing people of Troll like comments.is simply a means to justify the censorship of views or opinions you don't like.People should be allowed to speak freely within the bounds of legality.

GimboidMay 8th 2014.

The right to free speech does not extend to privately-owned websites. Removing comments from one's own website does not constitute censorship, and so there is nothing to 'justify'. In any case, there are plenty of contentious views posted here that are not deleted by the editor. Being a nuisance is the reason comments get deleted, as the site owner has made crystal clear previously.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

Yes it does Gimboid.We are talking about media ownership not land ownership.And please tell us some non privately owned websites apart from the BBC?.Gimboid you have a totalitarian mindset that wants to close down discussion of council failings.

GimboidMay 8th 2014.

The same extends to all privately owned websites so I don't understand the point of your question. Freedom of speech does not extend to other people's platforms, irrespective of format. You don't have the automatic right to get your views published on TV, radio or in any newspaper, and you don't have it hear. It's not censorship, or a restriction on the right to free speech, it's the reasonable right of the platform holder. Don't like it? You can start your own website, newspaper or distribute leaflets. THAT is our freedom of speech, which is protected. I won't bother replying to your accusation because repeating myself is getting boring.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

The media is not like some club where the management has the discretion about who it admits,it is is an essentially component of democracy.If the media in one city is monopolised by one Party as it largely is in Manchester,that is not good for democracy.Your suggestion that if people don't like it they should set up their own Gimboid ignores the cost of setting up and running a website or newspaper..It would require massive financial resources for anyone to set up a local paper to compete with the Labour supporting MEN.The barriers to entry are massive.

GimboidMay 8th 2014.

You must be joking. A website can created and run for free. Salford Star and Manchester Mule are local news sites that seem to get by pretty well without 'massive funding'. But the point is that you have the RIGHT to do these things, and so your right to free speech is NOT restricted. The cost of exercising that right, and whether anyone hears you, is irrelevant. The right to free speech does not include the right to an audience.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

By your argument Gimboid because we had the Morning Star the national press was not biased in the 1980s against the left and anyway they were free to set up there own newspaper.

GimboidMay 8th 2014.

By my argument? How is that in any way related to my argument? All I'm talking about is your original complaint, about freedom of speech and supposed censorship. I didn't say a single thing about bias. That's just in your head, adding 2+2 to make 5. As usual for you 'Anon'.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

As usual Gimboid you move eventually to making comments about people 'head'.Your usual approach for those whose opinions you don't like.

GimboidMay 9th 2014.

Again with the assumptions. There's only one person on here who's grasp of sanity I question, and they're not usually Anonymous.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

This is so tedious. Can't you both at least stick to the topic of the bloody article?

AnonymousMay 31st 2014.

The Editor's decision is final and he can go to jail for it.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

Vote Labour at the next general election - and vote no to HS2. I'm telling yer.

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ShybaldbuddhistMay 9th 2014.

No and No.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

It's now so obvious that our local media (what's left of it) is very wary of upsetting Sir Richard Leese & MCC, but hopefully somebody can at least put our beloved, knighted, socialist leader on the spot with this question:- Sir Richard, if we vote in a Labour government at the next election, will HS2 "definitely" go ahead or not?

JonathanMay 9th 2014.

Vote labour if you want illegal wars, more funding of work shy scumbahgs and messing up the economy again..... When will people learn.

rinkydinkMay 9th 2014.

Labour don't stand a chance of winning the next election. I don't believe that many people are that ridiculously thick

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Vote Tory if you want funding of various corporate benefit scroungers and an economy built on a housing bubble, consumer spending and froth.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Those corporate benefit scrounges in the city that Gordon Brown pandered to,with lax regulation,as well as supplying them with lots of cheap labour from Eastern Europe.Collective socialist amnesia at work again.

AnonymousMay 10th 2014.

Regulation that the Tories in general and Cameron in particular complained was too harsh at the time! Even now Osborne is busy lobbying away in Europe to allow City bankers to continue to be paid obscene bonuses despite the obvious peril these sort of incentives pose to the economy and wider society. The painfully slow recovery compared to other leading western economies is evidence of the failure of their dogma driven policies. Unreconstructed Thatcherites the lot of them, pandering to the usual big corporate vested interests / benefactors. SMEs and ordinary working families, anyone trying to get on in the world are of no interest to this lot. Can't wait for them to be turfed out.

AnonymousMay 10th 2014.

The painfully slow to non existent recovery is in France run by the same bunch of incompetent socialists as the Labour Party.Britain in contrast has high growth,far lower unemployment,falling inflation and an economy that had recovered from the damage Labour inflicted on it. Socialists always succeedin ruining the economy and making the ordinary man poorer.The current government have significantly increased tax allowances putting more money in their pockets as well.

AnonymousMay 10th 2014.

Sorry to give you a (very near) history lesson but the economy was busted by the banks. And politicians who did not regulate them properly. But let's face it if Labour were minded to do so the old style capitalists like Cameron, the Tories and their corporate benefactor friends in the city would have jumped straight down their throats accusing them of being anti business - which is exactly what they did do at the time!

AnonymousMay 10th 2014.

Even the economy in France has recovered quicker in GDP terms than ours by the way! Osborne-onomics is nothing more than dogma driven austerity with some measures to increase consumer and mortgage debt. You'd have to be pretty thick to be taken by the Tories' spin that their management of the economy is in the country's long term interests. Business investment is still pathetically low, as are exports, as is investment in R&D. Same old, same old.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

When Manchester Council declared the city a nuclear free zone in the 80s not one single nuclear power station or nuclear weapons base was built in the city. Localism at its finest.

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AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Declaring itself nuclear-free was utterly ridiculous.

AnonymousMay 8th 2014.

The danger with allowing lunatic trolls like "David" free reign to ram their own political agenda down people's throats, regardless of relevance to the article, is it actually stifles proper debate. This article is about devolution and how the lack of local autonomy holds our cities back. It is about the concentration of power in Westminster, NOT local party politics. The irony here is that if local government actually had the sort of autonomy that their counterparts in many other countries do, you would likely get much greater engagement in local politics as people and media see that they can actually change and influence things locally. With that you get more powerful and influential opposition voices and the whole quality of debate and political process is improved. Sadly all this is way over the head of the likes of "David" who cannot see beyond their own narrow agenda with the result that everyone loses out.

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AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

No it's not about devolution it's about advancing the pro union agenda of Labour.The idea that a party whose leadership come from and represent the London elite has got any interest in devolving power is a joke.They will centralise even more power in Whitehall with their ideas about nationalisation of the rail industry.

Mark FullerMay 9th 2014.

Culturally Manchester remains a powerful presence on the national stage. But politically we have been emasculated by the centralizing instincts of successive governments. The lack of caliber at local level is an inevitable outcome of the above , as are very low turn-outs in local elections, where the outcomes, in cities like Manchester, Liverpool and Glasgow are rarely in doubt. Without any possibility of losing power, the ruling party inevitably becomes arrogant , complacent and disconnected from a moribund and apathetic electorate. Indeed apathy becomes the primary weapon of the disaffected citizen in a mini soviet, one party city like Manchester. That this sorry state of affairs needs to change is obvious to many. But it would be naive to believe that Whitehall will relinquish control readily, although they will make all the right noises. Devolving powers to our great northern cities along with a form of PR would help bring pluralism and talent and business acumen back to local government. The question is, who is going to enact this revolution? Simply doing the same thing, voting for the same parties, and expecting a different outcome, would be a form of collective madness.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Mark Fuller, some lines from Wikipedia concerning the North East (regional assembly) devolution referendum back in 2004 :- "On 4 November 2004, voters in the North East rejected the proposal by 77.9% on a turnout of 49%, which halted the government's proposed referendums in the North West and Yorkshire and the Humber which were postponed and then dropped." So Mark, in answer to your enactment question - not via the people of the North, that's for sure. (Just seems people will always vote "no to change" up here?) Sadly, it would have to be done through central government diktat, not via any referendums, so it's just not going to happen is it?

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Absolutely right Mark. As Einstein defined madness 'doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'....Devolution must come with proportional representation to improve voter engagement. The last thing Manchester needs is Leese with more power. One thing the Tories and Labour have in common is that they like the status quo. Labour promised electoral reform in 1997 and went back on it. Lucy Powell holds the unenviable record of the lowest post war turn out at a by-election since the war at 18%. Of that turnout she got around 70% of the vote. So, of all of Manchesters constituents only 13% think Lucy Powell is the right person to represent us in Parliament. In her victory speech she still thought this was a 'message to the government'.....not really love

Face the factsMay 9th 2014.

Anon @ 12.35, the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Government were created under Labour. All the powers that have been devolved to the home nations were devolved under Labour. No interest in devolution? Hardly.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Not in England apart from London did Labour advance devolution.They did it in Scotland and Wales because you have nationalist parties.If we had northern based parties demanding greater resources and devolution they would be forced to do the same.As it is they are happy with the current consensus despite the obvious democratic deficit that is developing in Manchester,with lower and lower voter turnout.

Face the factsMay 9th 2014.

"The idea that a party whose leadership come from and represent the London elite has got any interest in devolving power is a joke." You were clearly making an incorrect generalisation, don't try to weasel out of it.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

Face the facts and Anon 12:35, you both right. Labour was interested in devolution but only in Scotland and Wales. Regional assemblies for England were proposed but the Labour government bottled it. Why I don't know.....maybe it was because London would loose power or maybe or was because John Presscot would have effectively been Prime Minister of England I don't. Suffice to say Labour has no interest in regional devolution and the evidence suggest it firmly favours London.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

FYI the norther assembly proposed by Labour during the Blair years was NOT devolution. It entailed stripping local authorities of powers and pooling them in a regional structure. A complete Easter of time, an insult and people saw through it. The command and control structures of the centre remained. Offer people genuine devolution and you might see a different result. Regardless of your politics there is no doubt that local government of whatever colour would be able to do so much more if the centre relinquished it's vice like grip of the levers of power... and resources that it spends so badly on our behalf.

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

*waste of time not Easter

AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

The people of Scotland had the good sense to get rid of first the Tories and then Labour and now it seems London.Hopefully the people in Manchester will do the same.

SquirrelitoMay 9th 2014.

Dear ManCon, can you make sure there's a fresh politics based article every couple of days to keep the house loons coralled in one place, ta x

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AnonymousMay 9th 2014.

There is already a place for the house loons,it's called the Labour Party.

SquirrelitoMay 9th 2014.

^^^^ arf!, you really are a robo-poster, aren't you?

Simon TurnerMay 9th 2014.

ManCon, maybe have a section with articles without comments, so your readers can enjoy your words and thoughts without being subjected to a stream of rubbish below the line?

AnonymousMay 10th 2014.

Actually agree with that last comment.

Poster BoyMay 9th 2014.

Blah, blah, blah. If anyone thinks this ring spun PR yarn is about 'Devolution to Cities' then they need to turn on and tune in to the dark arts of the way Westminster really works...

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