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Corrie Tour Will Not See 2016

Coronation Street Tour celebrates 2015 extension, but 2016 looks bleak for the street

Written by . Published on October 20th 2014.


Corrie Tour Will Not See 2016
 

GOOD news (sort of) for fans of the Weatherfield cobbles, the Coronation Street tour on Atherton Street has confirmed its extension until 2016.

In the long term, Corrie's city centre legacy looks bleak. Major work on the Old Granada Studios site is set to begin at the start of 2016 - as soon as the tour ends.

spokesperson for the tour operator, Continuum Leading Attractions, told Confidential that they could confirm that the tour would see out all of next year, with the last tour taking place in December 2015.

The attraction was only supposed to run for an original stint of six months from Spring 2014 - after production of the show moved to MediaCity in late-2013 - but has since welcomed over 300,000 fans to the tour.

The set has been used since 1982 (before then the complete set was housed inside the Granada studios) but was refused listed status by English Heritage in June 2012.

Old Granada StudiosOld Granada Studios

The site will close for a short period in November to allow operator Continuum to transform Weatherfield into 'a winter wonderland', complete with snow covered roof tops and a Christmas tree for the cobbles.

2015 will also see some new additions, both in the studio exhibition with set elements brought over from Coronation Street’s new home in MediaCityUK and new areas opened up to the public for the first time.

“I am thrilled to announce we have been able to extend the opening of the attraction," said Juliana Delaney, Chief Executive of Continuum Leading Attractions. "The feedback we have received so far has been phenomenal and I’m so pleased those who have yet to experience the tour will now have the chance to.

"The extension paves the way for us to make some exciting changes to the attraction and give past and present visitors a chance to see something new.”

Granada PlansNew plans for the Old Granada Plans

There had been some doubt about the immediate future of the tour at the former Coronation Street studio site since Spinningfields developers, Allied London, acquired the 13.5 acre Old Granada Studios plot in partnership with the City Council for £26.5m in the summer of 2013.

Corrie's city centre legacy looked doomed in August 2014 as Allied London laid out ambitious plans for a new city neighbourhood, 'St John's Quarter' - see here.

When asked at a public consultation about the former-Coronation Street site, Allied London chief Mike Ingall replied: "Well, do you see it on the plans?"

Even more doubts were cast last week as Allied London unveiled plans for a huge 200-suite hotel and entertainment complex, The Manchester Grande, for the former HQ building on Atherton Street, next door to the tour.

HQ building will become The Manchester Grande - the tour sits at the end of the streetHQ building will become The Manchester Grande - the tour sits at the end of the street

In the long term, Corrie's city centre legacy looks bleak. Major work on the Old Granada Studios site is set to begin at the start of 2016 - as soon as the tour ends.

As Confidential has said many times before (we first made this case in February 2012), to lose an attraction rooted in British popular culture would be 'a case of the city cutting off its nose to spite its face', and could prove a huge knock to city centre tourism numbers.

As long as the tour is turning over a decent profit, employing locals and bringing in tourists (some as far as Canada and New Zealand) by the hundreds of thousands, we struggle to see the merit in flattening the whole thing - especially when estimates suggest the tour has pumped nearly £8m into the local economy in less than six months.

Granted, come 2016 and visitor numbers may dwindle, people may lose interest, but shouldn't new development plans at least seek to incorporate some of the street's distinctive buildings and features? If only to break up the monotony of glass office and residential blocks.

Tickets post 31 October will go on sale from midday on Monday 20 October and can be purchased from www.ticketmaster.co.uk/coronationstreet

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105 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

OfficechesterOctober 20th 2014.

Utterly stupid decision Its so frustrating and annoying no one in power seems to want to keep this. What do tourist do in Manchester once they have left their hotel/restaurant? Get drunk, go to Primark, wonder around Piccadilly Gardens? Tourist need things to do, a reason to come here and a reason to stay here. This is the most famous street in the country and the most famous pub in the country and the longest running soap opera in the World. So far over 300,000 people have been on the tour, 300,000 paying visitors. What other attraction gets that many paying visitors in Manchester? It's had a number of weddings, with people travelling from all over the country to get married here. There's special Halloween, Christmas and New Years eve events planned and it held an event for the Labour party I believe. When people think Manchester they think football, music and tv, and we are gonna flatten what is a massive part of our heritage for an office block. Ridiculous.

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Les BattersboyOctober 20th 2014.

"What do tourist do in Manchester once they have left their hotel/restaurant?" Well, they've been coming in their droves for years, and apart from a few weeks at the start of the summer, they haven't been able to visit the Corrie set since 1999. It is a shame that the set will close, but to make out that tourists will have nothing to do after it closes is plainly false.

Jonathan SchofieldOctober 20th 2014.

Officechester honestly: start with these and then maybe do some galleries and museums and finish up in one of the restaurants: www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/…/Best-of-Manchester-Buildings…

AnonymousOctober 20th 2014.

Rebuild it in the Quays near the studios. It makes sense to have it there, actually in Salford where the programme is set and it would be close to the real set where the programme is made. But I guess in either place it's going to be sat on valuable land that will be needed for other purposes. Personally I've never felt an affinity to Coronation Street. It's about as relevant to people's lives in Manchester as Eastenders is to London. And it does perpetuate some myths about the city in the rest of the country that just aren't true anymore.

EdwardOctober 20th 2014.

Rebuild it in Stockport.

rinkydinkOctober 20th 2014.

Salford is in Manchester

GimboidOctober 20th 2014.

Ahoo, it's too late on a school night for that sort of carry-on, Rinkydink.

AnonymousOctober 21st 2014.

Salford is I'm Greater Manchester, not Manchester.

AnonymousOctober 21st 2014.

In

rinkydinkOctober 23rd 2014.

Salford is in Manchester full stop

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Salford is in Greater Manchester. Indisputable fact.

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

You should tell the University of Salford, Manchester and MediaCityUK Manchester

QuembaaOctober 24th 2014.

Any decent geographer will tell you there's more than one way to define 'where' a place is. Salford is obviously in Greater Manchester, but it can also be considered to be part of 'Manchester' depending on how you define Manchester.

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

Yep, I'm just travelling through MediaCityUK Manchester now. Through The Quays - Manchester's very own waterfront according to the MediaCityUK website

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Salford is certainly in Greater Manchester, but none of it is run from Manchester Town Hall so it's not in Manchester. Simple....

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

We can't help it is some website designer doesn't know the basic Geography of the are can we?

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

You're stuck in the past. Embrace the future. Accelerate it even. Then it won't catch you out

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Rinkydink you not even from here,but in your gormless wisdom you want to force people in Salford to be part of Manchester when they don't want to be.How very democratic,you idiot.

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

Relic

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

Just walking past the Lowry Outlet Mall. Oh look, it says Manchester on it. More than just a web design slip up then. Peel are leading the way where others will inevitably end up eventually

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

All Rinkydink's arguments mean nothing and won't transfer 1sq cm of Salford into Manchester. Time to face up to reality Rinkydink.

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Wirral = Cheshire

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

Salford already is a suburb of Manchester. Do survey of 500 people in central Manchester and I guarantee the majority of people would agree. It is you that has to face up to reality my friend. You are holding your city and the region back with your small mindedness. You are living in the past

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

You are idiot.Asking people in Manchester is not asking people in Salford.Why don't you go back to your grimtown Rinkydink and stop pretending you a Mancunian.

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

Ooh get her! I'm the new breed of Mancunian. The type that the council wants to live here. The type that contributes to the economy. The type that appreciates what Manchester could be. You're old school. If Manchester was full of people like you the place would still be a shit hole. But yeah, having a dual passport I could live in LA if I wanted to. Could you? I made the choice to live here. You're only here by default. The end.

QuembaaOctober 24th 2014.

Anon @ 10.12 am... it's really not as 'simple' as that. Sorry mate, you're just too dense to understand. Don't worry yourself about it.

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Strange all creativity in music Manchester was old school,before Rinkdink turned up. A city of much less people had far better music scene than the current one,with far more people.

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

If your trying to tell us Rinkydink that you have USA passport,then you could also take your sweaty arse to Alaska mate.

AnonymousOctober 25th 2014.

@Quembaa.... Far from being dense son...and anyone with a basic knowledge of how to use a map and a understanding of local politics will know that Salford is part of Greater Manchester but is not run from the City of Manchester. It is a different entity entirely. This is a simple fact you have yet to grasp. But don't worry about it, you will get there one day but it will take you time.

QUEMBAAOctober 26th 2014.

I can read a map cheers, and I understood the administrative lines and functions that divide the city (note the singular) the day I moved here. However if your understanding of what makes a place a place is as simplistic as that then I'm afraid you're probably not especially bright. The definition of a city is NOT just down to official lines on a map.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Quembaa must be incredibly dim. He claims to understand a map but has no idea that land on one side of a line on a map belongs to one place while land on the other side belongs to another. It's really that simple. I'd he/she thinks about it long enough he/she may eventually understand. But I won't be holding my breath. He/she should think hard before making assumptions about other people. I actually have a a 2.1 degree in Geography for the University of Manchester. I could lecture him at length of what makes a city/city region but in his/her case it would be casting pearls before swine.

QuembaaOctober 26th 2014.

Oh dear oh dear. Resorting to asserting ones academic achievements is a very obviously desperate way to try to wind an argument. I suppose you think that makes you a decent geographer? If you think it means anything (I don't) I have an Msc from the same department of the same institution.

QuembaaOctober 26th 2014.

*win an argument

QuembaaOctober 26th 2014.

"...has no idea that land on one side of a line on a map belongs to one place while land on the other side belongs to another." - nothing I posted states or implies that. It sounds to me like you're inordinately proud of knowing where the lines are and where the councils sit, and you're upset that you're not getting the respect you think that should earn you. Sorry about that petal.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Quembaa has no idea what constitutes a city, everything you have written implies that. If it didn't you haven't argued your point well at all. I certainly don't need validation or respect from you. Nor would I seek it from someone as ignorant as you. Your knowledge of basic geography and political institutions obviously knows no bounds. Unlike of course, the separate cities of Manchester and Salford, the county of Greater Manchester and the Manchester city region.

QuembaaOctober 26th 2014.

Ignorant? You're entirely grasping at straws. I know the geography, I know the boundaries, I know the political institutions - I've worked for / with the three central councils (Manchester, Salford, Trafford) in relevant capacities. I know their territory, what they have exclusive authority for, what they work together on, and I understand the issues on which they're not properly coordinated. So, thanks, I do understand the administrative details of what constitutes ONE conception of 'a city', which you're getting so adamant about. It's slightly bothersome to me that someone can succeed at my alma mater and remain so inflexibly-minded and pedantic.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Lots of places are close to others,it does not means they have to absorbed by the bigger party.The absorption of Salford would not be the end for this clown Rinkydink he would then claim Bolton and Bury are next to Manchester as well and should be called Manchester as well.He wants to colonise the whole of the North West,without bothering to ask the people about it.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Devolution does not mean replacing Centalised London control with the same thing from Manchester.People will not accept it in the rest of Greater Manchester they will demand to run their own affairs.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Quembaa all those 'I knows ',suggests a rather megalomaniac personality.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Quembaa claims he/she knows a lot and still can't grasp the basic fact that Manchester and Salford are separate cities. And he actually worked for them and still doesn't understand? Well that explains a lot about the short comings of local government.

AnonymousOctober 27th 2014.

Where's the City of Westminster? The Vatican is it's own state but where do you think of when anyone mentions it? So why can't Salford be a city in it's own right and be in Greater Manchester? Other places have a similar situation and they don't argue about it, maybe they see the positives in unity? I always say Salford, Manchester. The postcodes all start with an M and they all have an 0161 dialling code.

AnonymousOctober 21st 2014.

Move it to Spain.Give lots old retired British somewhere to go.

DarrenOctober 21st 2014.

What other attraction gets more paying visitors in Greater Manchester?

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AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

300,000 is a lot of chavs I'll give you that.

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

300,000 of whoever paying £15 a pop is £4.5m in ticket sales alone.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Stockport Hat Musem did.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Did what? Got more visitors?

rinkydinkOctober 24th 2014.

4.5 million quid in ticket sales going to ITV, London?

AnonymousOctober 27th 2014.

And I suppose all the jobs created by over 300,000 people visiting the tour went to people from London too RinkyDink?!

AnonymousOctober 21st 2014.

It got 300,000 visitors after being closed to the public for several years, there's no way it will get that every year, not many will go twice, besides it's not even filmed there anymore.

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DarrenOctober 21st 2014.

I beg to differ. It can have various attractions throughout the year involving people from the show, as is taking place over Halloween. There's different events planned for Christmas and New Years eve too. And they've had weddings too, which would have taken place in other parts of the country if this venue wasn't available. It's pulling people in from all over and will continue to do so as long as it stays open. The question remains, what's the most popular attraction we have that you have to pay an entry fee for?

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

Anon, got any data to back up your claims?

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

How would I possibly have stats? I have common sense but no crystal ball. Keeping it there just for Halloween and some weddings is also a ridiculous idea.

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DarrenOctober 22nd 2014.

If it's such a bad idea tell us the attractions that get more paying visitors then. Over 300,000 visitors so far plus 3 weddings and 3 special events planned for Halloween, Christmas & New Year with various actors from the show. People will go again because it's being changed for each event and they can meet different people from the show. If you can't provide proof that somewhere else gets more paying visitors then you have to admit your way of thinking is wrong.

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

The number of paying visitors is irrelevant Darren, who does the money go to? Anyway, Old Trafford, the Etihad and the Arena are just three places that have more paying visitors, if you don't know that then then you are an idiot.

DarrenOctober 22nd 2014.

Anon, The number of paying visitors isn't irrelevant, tell me what attraction gets more? And btw arenas and sports stadiums aren't considered to be visitor attractions but what does this idiot know? Do some research and then come back and answer the question that's been asked numerous times on here and is yet to be answered. What gets more paying visitors than this tour in Manchester?

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

Who says they are not visitor attractions? Do you have any proof that this gets 300,000 visitors anyway? Prove that this will continue to get 300,000 a year in the future, I have seen no proof.

OfficechesterOctober 22nd 2014.

I suggest before you go round calling people idiots you get your facts right. Do some research, you'll find it all on this website if you need too. Stadiums and arenas aren't considered attractions and the tour has had over 300,000 visitors, that figure was released weeks ago, so it'll be allot more than that no doubt.

DavidOctober 22nd 2014.

A better use for this site would have to have developed it into a museum and and arts quarter incorporating the Cornerhouse,library theatre and a media and culture museum,making use of the old Granada buildings and able to retain the Coronation Street set. Unfortunately in Manchester we have a council that has devolved the question of ideas for the city entirely to developers.It has no strategic vision what so ever.Not surprisingly developers vision is flats,hotel,office.Exactly the same formula in everything that gets planned,leading to boring,conformist development. Boris Johnson may be a clown,his ideas may be flawed,such as with the the idea of new airport.But at least he has some unlike gerontocracy of Leese and Bernstein,who more interested serving the needs of their chums in the chosen developers they choose,rather than offering any dynamic,interesting vision of the future of this city.

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EdwardOctober 22nd 2014.

What are you on about? The council can't (and shouldn't) be in control of all development in the city.

DavidOctober 22nd 2014.

What is the point of a council leadership has zero vision for one of most important sites in the city.Also since 1996 when public was involved,the Manchester public are excluded to.Only developers get to decide now.

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

Ahhh David.....I've missed you.

AnonymousOctober 22nd 2014.

Truly bonkers David. You never disappoint.

DavidOctober 22nd 2014.

Manchester council has no appreciation culture,except as vehicle for wider property development of offices or apartments.A great city should be about more than merely more offices and hotels.Great cities even ones concerned finance,build public spaces and parks.This council in last 30 years has created not one significant space in the city with greenery,appealing to families .If Central Park was in Manchester Leese and Bernstein would find the need to build on it.

DAVID'S DISAPPOINTED MOTHEROctober 22nd 2014.

"A better use for this site would have to have developed it into a museum and and arts quarter incorporating the Cornerhouse,library theatre ..." Which is EXACTLY what the council have done on another redevelopment site in the city centre! You say the council has no vision, and yet they're actually four years ahead of you on ideas! If they'd built it on the Granada site you'd be complaining that the First Street site development was all boring offices and apartments. You are so spectacularly wrong-headed that it's hard to believe you actually have enough intelligence to use a computer. Please stop posting, you're bringing the average IQ down several levels.

JoanOctober 22nd 2014.

Hi David. MCC's Executive Committee will be discussing the Granada site at their next meeting on 29th October. The report which will be under discussion will soon be available here: www.manchester.gov.uk/…/executive…

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Hey DAVID'S DISAPPOINTED MOTHER, I don't think any of those dismal new buildings at First Street will be up for RIBA's Stirling Prize any time soon though eh? Yes, Liverpool continues to just look better & better - perhaps their "elected" mayor, Joe Anderson, and his team could give Leese & Bernstein some advice on good town planning & design???

DAVID'S DISAPPOINTED MOTHEROctober 24th 2014.

HEY ANONYMOUS, correct or not your comment is totally irrelevant to the point I was making to David. So, thanks for your attempt at making a contribution, but next time maybe try a bit harder to make sure you understand what the grown ups are talking about, before you chip in.

AnonymousOctober 25th 2014.

Should we call you mother?.A man who wants to cross dress and assume role of another mans mother,is asking other people to grow up.I think your the one with issues.

DAVID'S DISAPPOINTED MOTHEROctober 26th 2014.

What makes you assume I'm a man? Do you not expect women to post on the internet? Perhaps you have issues with that.

AnonymousOctober 26th 2014.

Fantasising about being David's mother can't be healthy.

DAVID'S DISAPPOINTED MOTHEROctober 26th 2014.

Definitely not, but I'm obviously not doing so. It's a sarcastic pseudonym solely for the purpose of taking the piss of the resident nutcase. Pretending that you don't understand that is not clever or funny.

DavidOctober 22nd 2014.

No the council should have put the new Cornerhouse together with old Granada site,with a museum for media and culture,that could make use of the old tv studios and keep the old coronation street set.Those two would compliment each other better.Having that next to the Science museum would create a museum quarter. First Street is everything Thats wrong with development in this city,a boring,banal development by one of the Councils pet developers.

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AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

The museum didn't want the Coronation Street Set, neither do the current developers, this is totally the wrong area for the cornerhouse too.

JoanOctober 23rd 2014.

The dates don't quite work either. Plus, as I've said before, I doubt that Granada / ITV would hand over control of the Corrie set; it's such a key part of their brand.

DAVID'S DISAPPOINTED MOTHEROctober 23rd 2014.

No David you're wrong. Even if the timescales had allowed for what you're suggesting, clustering all of the cultural attractions in one place would have been detrimental - the way things have developed means we have two mixed-use areas that both have something cultural to attract people and activity to the areas - the Granada area already has MOSI on one side, next to the planned office and resi, and First Street will similarly be a mix of office, leisure and cultural offer. This way the benefits are spread across the city centre, helping to bring activity and regeneration to a wider area than would be achieved if everything was clustered in the way you suggest.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

First Street looks dreadful. Another architectural eyesore imposed on the city by Leese & Bernstein. Please Mr Osborne, we beg you, don't devolve more control over local planning to this lot - take their powers away instead!

New Glass > HeritageOctober 23rd 2014.

If another city was home to the worlds longest running soap opera, which has the most famous pub in the country on the most famous street in the country. That's been watched by 10/20 million people for decades, I doubt they'd knock it down like we are planning on doing for the sake of an office block. Forget the visitors who are booking in their thousands. Forget the numerous events they have had or are due to have, like the Labour party event and the Halloween/Christmas/New Years Eve events. The country's wedding industry is worth £10 Billion and there's plenty of fans from all over the world who would love to get married there, as has already happened with fans coming up from London to do just that. The place is and can be a massive money spinner for the region. Home to multiple events with multiple uses, but we need an office block more? Once this tour is gone and part of our heritage has been lost people can do tours of the Hacienda, Twisted Wheel or the worlds first railway station in stead. Oh wait a minute...

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QuembaaOctober 23rd 2014.

Why do people always make this daft 'Only in Manchester' claim? As if no other city can be accused of having a questionable attitude to its heritage!

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

The Hacienda was way past it's peak and had become really very dangerous indeed, Twisted Wheel was very run down and seedy and the railway station is in a museum open to the public.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

The Hacienda would have made a great arts space with significant cultural history, and now, it would have been over the road from HOME or whatever's going to be called. Ideal really.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Thousands of people flock to Salford's Lads club for The Smith/Morrissey connection, and all that happened at that building was one photo on the inner sleeve of one album. There would have been massive interest in a music related museum in the Hacienda. The place was linked to so many influential bands and artists.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Happy Mondays and New Order, who else?

DavidOctober 23rd 2014.

Oasis,Pet Shop Boys and Madonna all played there.It had a massive influence n the development of DJ culture and music throughout the whole world.There is nothing produced in Manchester in last two decades that has had the same influence.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Oasis, PSB, Madonna have played pretty much everywhere, that does not warrant a museum, and it did not have a big an iinfluence outside the North like you think, all it did was copy Chicago, Detroit, Berlin, hardly anybody has heard of it overseas. Other cities laugh at Manchester going on about the Hacienda.

rinkydinkOctober 23rd 2014.

Look, the Hacienda was at the forefront of the whole acid house seen nationwide, along with clubs like Shoom in London. This transformed youth culture and has been hugely influential on the music and clothes you hear and see these days. People that know about clubs overseas have heard of it in my experience. Aside from that it was an amazing club with a mad mix of people and styles - legendary. If you don't appreciate these things you won't agree - but you also aren't really qualified to comment. "I have never liked the Beatles - therefore they were crap and should be forgotten"

rinkydinkOctober 23rd 2014.

scene not seen, ha

AnonymousOctober 27th 2014.

Influence on what? Are you having a laugh? It was voted the number one nightclub in the entire world at one point. People would travel here for the sole purpose of partying. Students chose Manchester over other places because of the music. It was the place that Madonna played her first ever show in the UK. It had New Order, A Certain Ratio, Happy Mondays, James, A Guy Called Gerald, 808 State. If it had no influence then why do we have films like 24 Hour Party People? And why is the second film being written now? Listen to people like Moby, The Killers, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, bands from America that say Manchester music shaped their sounds. The Red Hot Chiller Peppers said one of the best guitarists ever comes from Manchester, and while people thought Marr, Squire or Gallagher they cited him as Vini Reilly from The Durutti Column a Factory band, one of Tony Wilson's favourites. The Hacienda period had a very big influence on a lot of people hence people moving here at the time like Dave Haslam. Just because it didn't have an effect on you doesn't mean it didn't have an effect on millions of people worldwide.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

The Hacienda thing is way overblown, it's nowhere near as significant as the people involved make out. Nightclubs close all the time, that doesn't mean they should all be preserved.

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DavidOctober 23rd 2014.

Without the hacienda,in the days Man City and United were crap,nobody young was interested about Manchester.That club brought in its wake,Manchester Universities being most popular in country applications,all the bar culture of 1990s,city centre living and the Spar.It did more to revive Manchester than all the clowns in the Labour council put together.People forget what a a post industrial dump Manchester was in the 1980s with a hard left council out of touch with reality,many of whom like Leese and Stringer moved significantly rightwards later.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

It would have been nice to have preserved the building as the club was and done it up in it's original condition, but use the building for something else as an art or event space instead of a museum for the club itself. The building wasn't much but the apartments aren't the most pleasing to the eye either.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Ah the 80s. I wonder which party was in government for the entirety of the 80s. Yes, it was Thatcher that sacrificed the economy of the north in favour of a rapacious and self-serving City of London, establishing thanks to an overwhelmingly right wing press, an economic orthodoxy that lasts to the present day. All whilst regional disparities in economic performance and social inequalities have increased massively.

rinkydinkOctober 23rd 2014.

Back to the original point. It is not overblown. I was there and I can tell you it was hugely significant countrywide if you knew anything at all about youth culture. Massive. However, that was then and this is now and I hate cities trading on past glories (Liverpool/Beatles being the main culprit). Manchester is doing an amazing job of reinventing itself. It doesn't need to and shouldn't dwell on the past but keep looking forward and swallowing up the towns around it like it has done with Salford. Titter

DavidOctober 23rd 2014.

I don't think you should exist in past either.Whats wrong is the narrative that the revival of city begin in 1996.The contributions of those before that are forgotten.

Mark FullerOctober 23rd 2014.

To blame Mrs Thatcher for virtually everything that's wrong in society is a very tired trope and extremely simplistic. The traditional industries of northern England had been in decline for many years before Thatcher became Prime Minister. Periodically, Labour were every bit as ruthless in the industrial sphere as Thatcher{who was more of a Gladstonian classical Liberal than a Tory}: e.g. Labour closed more coal mines than the Conservatives. A lot of myths prevail because the left tend to be more passionate and relentless in expounding their narrative and version of reality. This is because Socialism is a secular religion.

rinkydinkOctober 23rd 2014.

The revival of the city was happening before 96. There were private apartment blocks like Chepstow House and the beginning of purposeful city dwelling in 1991 at least. It was happening well before the bomb and would have happened without it. All the bomb did was raise awareness of Manchester

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

@Rinkydink 'I was there and I can tell you it was hugely significant countrywide if you knew anything at all about youth culture.' Being an American then, that means you've lived in the UK longer than you've lived in the US! Perhaps that's why you have an interest in this adopted city of yours I was born in.

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Mark - hmmmm not sure I agree with that. For it is dogma, unfounded assertions, rhetoric and blind faith that is the creed of those of the right generally speaking (the UKIP / Daily Mail mentality); suggesting that it is the free market fundamentalists that follow a secular religion.

rinkydinkOctober 23rd 2014.

I have lived here for 28 years, not that it's any of your business at all. And I don't care if you were born here or not. Completely irrelevant where anyone was born these days - we're global citizens. To that end and from what I can see, it's the people from outside of this city that have become adopted Mancunians that have driven it forward for the past 20 years

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Oh boy!

AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Ha, Rinkydink's saying that non-Mancunians have done more for the city in the last twenty years than people born here? 'Global citizens' indeed! Group hug?

SquirrelitoOctober 24th 2014.

Jeez, mate. You have an unhealthy obsession with Rinkydink. It must be love xxx

AnonymousOctober 23rd 2014.

Rinkydink is having issues tonight.Grab a drink and calm down

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AnonymousOctober 24th 2014.

Squirrelito and Rinkdink xxx

AnonymousJanuary 19th 2015.

For those that think getting rid of this tourist attraction is a stupid idea, please sign the petition on the link below. www.change.org/…/manchester-city-council-allied-london-itv-save-the-coronation-street-set…

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