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Corrie Tour Extended Until January 2016

Good news for tourism

Published on August 19th 2014.


Corrie Tour Extended Until January 2016
 

THIS is good news for tourism in the city centre. That re-opened slice of TV history off Atherton Street is to have a stay of execution until January 2016.

To lose something as distinctive as Coronation Street and to replace it with generic, could-be-anywhere, commercial and residential buildings seems perverse. 

Coronation Street is saved for the city - for the time being. 

This decision follows 'analysis of current and projected visitor numbers and economic benefit'.

The tours were to be scrapped in October but the leisure sector of the city, numerous residents, city centre councillors and Confidential have all insisted that to lose an attraction rooted in British popular culture would be a case of the city cutting off its nose to spite its face. 

Economic analysis reveals the site could deliver more than £25 million into the Greater Manchester economy.

Of course what happens after January 2016 looks bleak.

Maybe in the next year a plan to secure the buildings around the actual cobbles of Corrie can be developed. To lose something as distinctive as Coronation Street and to replace it with generic, could-be-anywhere, commercial and residential buildings seems perverse. 

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44 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

ShybaldbuddhistAugust 19th 2014.

Agree 100%. I'm not a fan personally, but millions are.

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

Might as well keep it open for the time being and make some cash. But if it's bites the dust in 2016, not a lot will be lost, they've built another one in the Quays haven't they? I've not seen the programme in years either. It's about as relevant to real life in Manchester as Eastenders is to London...

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

But they are not real buildings, just facades - what is the point in flogging a dead horse

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ShybaldbuddhistAugust 19th 2014.

How is it a dead horse? It's attracted well over 250,000 paying customers in months?!

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

Maybe the flogged dead horse can be taken down and moved to the Quays where the hoards of Corrie fans can go and flog it at £16 a pop (or whatever)...

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

To anon above, bring the dead horse to Salford by all means. 250,000 extra visitors and associated additional spend in Salford at the expense of Manchester. Yea. (That was a joke by the way, it needs to stop where it is.)

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

Just makes sense to have it near the studios rather than cluttering up a piece of valuable real estate in the city centre.

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

Actually it'd be in Trafford....

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

It depends on where on the Quays it was built. The suggestion was The Quays, not specific in location. That could be Salford Quays, or Trafford Wharf.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

Well the Granada Studios are in Trafford so it would make sense to have it there.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

But ITV offices, Sport and some studios are on the Salford side, so just as valid.

rinkydinkAugust 20th 2014.

Trafford and Salford are in Manchester

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

But Coronation Street is in Trafford

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

The "valuable bit of real estate" is not required until a later stage in the redevelopment. Should it be demolished any stay an open piece of wasteland, or worse, surface car park? No need to, exploit the set for as long as possible, then get rid. Everyone's a winner.

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AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

Allied London have a good record, banking crisis allowing, of following through with their developments. Spinningfields has been a success and I like the way they keep their area clean and well maintained. I imagine they'll want to get this development off the ground ASAP. Move it to the quays, it's all cardboard, smoke and mirrors anyway...

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

No one is doubting that the development will go ahead. Allied London do not need this part of the land until phase 2 in a year or two. They should benefit from any profits from the tours in the meantime. Thankfully the management at AL agree with me, not you. Manchester can also benefit from associated additional spend. As for your comment that it is all cardboard, smoke and mirrors, it shows that you have no idea about the pull of such an attraction. Or would you rather go to an "Oast House" made from cardboard, smoke and mirrors, as authentic as the Corry Set.

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

No idea what the Oast House has to do with a Coronation Street set. Can't see the thrust of you argument there. T O H is a real pub with a purpose. The Coronation Street set is a folly with no purpose at all since Granada moved to the Quays. Get rid of it now or in two years but get rid of it. Build a new one if you like out in Trafford so fans can go visit it there next to the studios where it would have some context. Keeping it where it is now makes no sense at all. It's hardly some ancient ruin of historical interest is it?

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

At least you can get a drink and a bite to eat at the Oast House which is more than can be said for the Rovers Return or Queen Vic whatever fantasy pub is there.

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

I won't keep on with a mute argument. AL are keeping the set until 2016. AL agree with me not you, it is worth keeping in the short term. You are impressed with AL but do not trust their decision on this one. The Oast House is no less a stage set than the Coronation Street set. If food and drink provision are all that are needed to make it have a purpose, set up a food and drink stall on the Street. It is not a folly without purpose, it is a tourist attraction that brings visitors to Manchester. AL have seen its worth and are keeping it, for the short term.

AnonymousAugust 19th 2014.

Sorry moot argument, not mute b**** predictive text

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

Pull it down now, pull it down in two years, either way it needs to go. Build another somewhere else if you like, best near the studios for the fans to wander along. They'll be happy with that. One fake set is the same as another fake set, it's position is immaterial.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

What are you on about, "pull it down now, pull it down in two years". Have you not read the article, it will not be pulled down until after 2016, if then. It has already been decided that it will not be pulled down now. That debate has been won. For now at least.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

'At least you can get a drink and a bite to eat at the Oast House' If you have a spare few hours to wait! I was in at the weekend and it was so packed I had one drink and went elsewhere. It wasn't what I'd call busy or full, it was stupidly crammed to the point where the cue for the bar started as soon as you set foot in the place. Not for me, I like to be able to turn round or scratch my nose without having to ask people to move first.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

I've not been in since it first opened. I see nothing's changed. It's well pokey in there.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

To one of the anons above that wrote "Can't see the thrust of you argument there. T O H is a real pub with a purpose". What a stupid statement. Firstly, TOH, as you call it is not a real Oast House. It was built as a temporary building, with planning permission to be retained for a limited period. This permission has been extended. It is built from timber sheets with thin brick "slips" glued on the sides with grip fill. It is no more authentic than the set that you seem to dislike so much. The Corry Set, now it is being retained, will also have a purpose, one of tourist attraction. Perhaps it is not a purpose that you approve of, though heaven knows why. Anything that adds to visitor numbers is a positive, can't you see that?

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

Your comments are mulled and voided by your personal attacks. I am far from being stupid. T O H is a real pub where you can buy real drink and real food. What it is built of is irrelevant. It must have passed all the health and safety points to be opened as such. The Coronation Street set is just that, try moving anyone in. Without serious upgrading you would stand no chance. Granada has left for Media City along with Coronation Street and its set. The one left there is redundant and is in the way of the redevelopment of that part of the city. It is not some ancient venerated Grade 1 listed treasured building. It's a creaky old stage set. I have no objection to it being removed and rebuilt in a more appropriate position if people want to do that. That position would be somewhere in Media City. But I doubt if Granada would be happy doing that. I honestly don't understand why you don't get this. I don't dislike the set. I have never seen it in person and don't watch the programme so I may have seen it in passing on TV but am not really familiar with it. I don't really care when it goes, now or in two years time. But it will go and it will be no loss to the city. Any loss of revenue will be more than made up for by the money the city will collect in council tax from the apartments and businesses to be built there.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

To the anon who said The Oast House isn't a real oast house. Well Central Library isn't a real Roman temple but it looks like one, Manchester Art Gallery looks like a Greek Temple but isn't one. The city's street a are lined with cotton warehouses that look like Renaissance palaces in Florence, baronial castles from Scotland, baroque palaces from Vienna .... Just because the business that goes on inside a building is at odds with the exterior of the building doesn't make it a stage set. To quote that anon person 'what a stupid statement.'

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

It was a stupid statement, the poster stated that TOH had a purpose, inferring that the Corry Set doesn't have a purpose. The set is as valid a building as any other, it is just that its purpose is different. Those warehouses that look like Renaissance Palaces now have a new purpose, apartments and offices. The Set for a TV series is no longer a set, it has been reused as a tourist attraction. I could argue all day about where you are so wrong. AL agree with me on this one, they are keeping it open for another 18 months at least. Anyway, it is of little relevance, the set is staying, at least for the short term. You can rant away that it should be demolished, but it will stay as long as there is money to be made. Your opinions are, as are mine, inconsequential.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

And I don't watch the programme either, but I can understand the value of 250,000 visitors a year to a city. I can't see any of them coming to visit a pretend Oast House, whatever its purpose. How can say that to deprive the city of 250,000 visitors will be no loss? Never mind, it will make no difference to AL what either of us think.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

It will be demolished, the figures don't add up. The people don't come to see the set, they come for other purposes and go see the set. Manchester has many more attractions than a cardboard set on a redundant rundown backlot. You talk as if seeing this is the only reason people come to Manchester. They don't. There are many more compelling reasons to visit the city. The Coronation Street set is way down the list. And if the city had to pin its fortunes on whether this set stays or goes we'd be in a poor state. And I have never argued for it to be destroyed, just moved to a more suitable place. 250,000 is small beer compared to the 90,000,000 who visit this city for other reasons during the year.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

It is not being demolished, it has another 18 months. As you say, when the numbers no longer add up, it will go. I have no doubt that visitor numbers will eventually drop off, until that time it will stay. People do come for a variety of reasons, reduce that variety and reduce the numbers. Why are you so averse to keeping a variety of tourist attractions. Nobody will be attracted to visit a village estate of residential blocks. I just don't understand your logic, a tourist attraction or apartment blocks, which brings in most visitors? Where are you getting that it is made of cardboard, it isn't, it is brick built. And if it wasn't redundant, the tourists wouldn't be able to walk around it.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

In answer to your post point by point. It will go... There are plenty of attractions in Manchester, we don't need to rely on this one, while there may be a few visitors who come solely to see this but the vast majority don't and won't....I'm not adverse to a variety of tourist attractions but this one isn't a great one, Manchester has better....AL have succeeded in making Spinningfields, a collection of steel and glass office blocks, into a great attraction for non business folk, they will be doing the same with this new development.... 'Cardboard' was a metaphor for the transient, temporary nature of this set, now Granada have moved on it has lost its primary purpose, it may have another temporary life as an attraction to a few fans but it must not be allowed to get in the way of the redevelopment of this area which will attract greater wealth and prosperity to the city than it will ever be able to....build another one near the new Granada Studios if you want, this one is surplus to requirements

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

it is a good job that not everything is demolished when it is redundant. we would have nothing left. people DO come just for the tour that is why they advertise it countrywide. they may not be international tourists, but home grown ones still spend money. you might not like the program but millions do. i worked the old tour and coach parties came from all over. people that would never consider coming to manchester for anything else.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

It's a good job redundant things are demolished or we would be living in ruins. Some people might come solely to see it but not millions, 250,000 is a lot less than a million. I have no thoughts about the programme, just never watched it. And if it's the only reason those visitors came to the city then that is their loss, there's more to the city than that set. The old tour was bad, had the misfortune of going one Christmas, cold hard sprouts and burnt roast potatoes but that's nothing to do with this. Just an aside. Leave the theme parks to the Americans if you want quality.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

Now I will answer your post point by point. Yes there are plenty of attractions in Manchester, but can you tell me that any (football excepted) are as famous as The Street? I do not say we need to rely on this one, it is part of the mix, we shouldn't rely on any single attraction. Where do you get your information regarding the "pull" of the tours, has there been any visitor surveys and feedback done? what was the outcome? I have no idea, but you are stating it as fact. It is not a great attraction, but that is your opinion, 250,000 visitors would say otherwise. AL failed in their first attempt at attracting non business folk to Spinningfields. They wanted it to be high end shops, they had to rethink the whole offering. This area is destined to be residential, not a great mix with noisy bar and restaurants nearby. They will have to rethink this in the same way as they changed the offering in Spinningfields. As per my previous post, the Oast House was a temporary building that was to stay just 5 years, it is still there. It was alwasy supposed to be trasient and temporary, but has become a great addition to the area. May buildings loose their primary purpose, but are re thought for new usses, warehouses become homes, office blocks become hotels, TV sets become tourist attractions. It is one small street, it will not stand in the way of development. However your words are the very words that demolished huge swathes of the city centre to build the Arndale. Same words different era, same consequence. Developers get rich and the City looses its heritage. This is not surplus to requirements while 250,000 want it. It is not as if the city is short of development land, just look around at the desolate abandoned building sites.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

MOSI, Manchester Art Gallery, Palace Theatre, the Opera House, the Lowry Centre all attract more people than Coronation Steet. AL have made a great success of Spinningfields which is always busy and buzzy. At the moment hey are improving it further. Any mistakes made on that development won't be being made on this new one. It's not entirely residential but will be a mixture of business and residential. the Oast house is a busy pub. Don't put words in my mouth though. North Manchester is littered with rotting redundant buildings that put investors off. They are best removed. The city doesn't lose it's heritage, it builds a new identity. Manchester isn't Venice, it's never going to get by on its looks. And Venice was once one of the planets powerhouses. The London of its day. Centuries of allowing it to stagnate have reduced it to living on tourists to come for the weekend to see the beautiful decay. And there's nothing wrong with creating wealth, we all benefit from that. There may be desolate abandoned sites across the city but many are not in the places where people are prepared to invest. This one is. So rebuild your little set somewhere else and let them get on with creating homes, offices, jobs and wealth.

AnonymousAugust 20th 2014.

What has Venice got to do with it? We are talking about a tiny part of a regional city, nothing like preserving a whole city for tourists. As for abandoned sites not in locations where people want to invest, the BBC site, Origin, Bloom Street car park, Boddingtons, Ancoats Noma to name a few are all areas at least as well placed as this site. We are talking about a tiny portion of a huge site. Any architect worth their salt could incorporate it into the wider scheme without compromising the final result. How can you be sure that "mistakes will not be made on this one" it is impossible to predict that. Yours and my opinions really don't matter in the long run. It is a pointless argument as AL will do what they want with their own land. At the moment they want to keep the tour, regardless of what either of us want.

AnonymousAugust 21st 2014.

We are talking about Venice because that is a fate Manchester wants to avoid. We need to be a vibrant, modern developing city. Venice was the premier business city of the world at one point and is now a nice place to go for a weekend break. Manchester will never be able to do what Venice did. All those other sites need developing but it is this site's turn to be developed. And that set is standing in the way. Take it down if you want build it elsewhere and let them get on with the redevelopment.

AnonymousAugust 21st 2014.

And the Coronation Street set reminds me of the Old Wellington Inn and Sinclairs Oyster Bar. They looked so out of place in that 1960s development that used to surround them. Then ther was the bomb and they were move to their present site where they look brilliant surrounded by buildings that are in scale with them. The Coronation Street set would look similarly out of context and scale with the planned buildings. plus it's not a significant historical building worthy of saving. If you want it, move it and put it somewhere more appropriate.

AnonymousAugust 21st 2014.

It's a TV set, not a real building. Why are we even debating whether it's worth preserving?

AnonymousAugust 21st 2014.

Exactly... It's hardly the Town Hall is lit?

Ian ChristieAugust 20th 2014.

Seems to me there are 3 possible futures for the Corrie Street set: (1) Demolition as proposed at the mo (2) Retention of the street facades and repositioning of the interiors from where they are at the moment in the Granada studios to behind the facades so that whole street, inside and out, becomes a visitor attraction with entrance fees and guides as at present (brilliant, knowledgeable and humorous guides too) or (3) Retention of the facades with the space behind them converted or rebuilt into the sort of small business units envisaged for many parts of the St John’s Quarter Master Plan area and with only the Rovers Return housing the studio interior and becoming a pub - under this option the street would become like any other public street in the Master Plan area, it would just happen to be called Coronation Street (which no doubt would attract many small businesses and visitors) and would happen to have a pub called the Rovers Return on one corner. For the life of me I can’t see how options 2 or 3 can't appeal to Allied London, the City Council, Marketing Manchester or even ITV. In option 3 the set wouldn’t be preserved simply as a tourist attraction in competition with the new MediaCityUk set but rather integrated for ever into the fabric of the city as a living and changing element of it. We could still walk the cobbled street where Ena Sharples, Annie Walker, Bet Lynch, Vera Duckworth, Ken and Deidre Barlow, Mike Baldwin, Elsie Tanner, Gail Tilsley and many others characters have walked before us. Seems a no brainer to me.

AnonymousAugust 21st 2014.

Ironically the picture used to illustrate the article is an interior only set. The 'buildings' themselves are little more than shells. Built in the 1980s. Stonehenge this is not.

AnonymousSeptember 9th 2014.

I see the first wedding on the old Coronation Street set has taken place. A couple who live in London, and their friends who live in various places around the country were there to see the couple get wed. The set also has 2 more weddings planned before October. So as well as attracting over 250,000 paying visitors, it's now pulling in people from all over the UK to get married. Why are we even considering knocking this down? Absolute madness. The number of events that could be held at the set make it an absolute money spinner for the city.

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