Chetham’s needs £5m to finish new school

Call me old fashioned but who starts a building project, especially an enormous one, without the required funds to finish it? Whats that saying- "Cut your coat according to your cloth" ? Makes me wonder if this is a truly essential building or simply a vanity project.

An expensive and exclusive private school bemoaning poverty. My heart bleeds.

What a spectacular misunderstanding of CHetham's you have Dumb-eldore. Ninety per cent of students that go there are on a scholarship, funded through the Department for Education.

My neice was one of them, and she was from a working class family based in a poor part of Bradford. Hardly exclusive.

It bears no mind to academic excellence either, meaning a real mix of kids who all have one thing in common - musical talent, largely nurtured through scholarships.

Dumbledore you idiot. Most of the kids are on scholarships, the school caters for all. It's a wonderful aspect of Manchester life that we have this specialist college. Understand the thing before you condemn it.

Flute lessons don't come cheap in Salford.

Dumbledore. Chets ISN'T a fee paying private school. That's what's so great about it. Its based on talent and merti - if you're good enough you audition and if you're good enough you might get offered a place. It doesn't matter if you're from a sink estate in the midlands or the Home Counties.

Neither are football boots, but enough parents in Salford buy them for their kids.

Bit of reverse snobbery at work Dumbledore?

Chets IS a fee paying private school anon, one of the most expensive in the country. But most of the childrens' fees are covered by scholarships, as Agricola rightly stated.

Chethams is still a fee paying school, and the majority of its pupils are Jocastas and Tabithas from Wilmslow and Harrogate. And do you know why, Anonymous People? Regular music lessons to get a child to the standard which Chethams would accept are way beyond the reach of most single or working class families, so don't come the "reverse snobbery" argument as apart from being disingenuous, it's rather naff.

Chethams IS a fee paying school, so please don't make out it's the northern outpost of Save The Children.

I welcome the suggestion that the school will be made more accessible to visitors. It's sad that funding is not more readily available for such an important project.

@ Dumbledore, kids are accepted to Chet's on their potential. It's not as cut and dried as (for instance) university applications where specific grades have to be achieved. This means that gifted but disadvantaged children are always considered. As someone who was a dirt poor single parent for a bloody long time, I have to say that music lessons are affordable and if you can't find the money for an instrument there are loan schemes out there.

This school doesn't need any more money. It wants it. There is a difference.

The well-heeled seem to be getting ever more greedy for other peoples money. At my local supermarket checkouts I often encounter well-spoken, well-dressed and polite children from local wealthy independent schools eager to pack my bags in return for a contribution to some new tennis courts or swimming pool, or an 'educational' trip to some far flung exotic destination. I tell them that I only give charity cash to people poorer than myself.

I was in Waitrose in Wilmslow a few weeks ago and they were collecting for three c"ommunity projects": There was a private school looking for money for its drama club, some historical society and a whist club.