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600 New Bins To Tackle City Centre Litter Issue

Council spend £500k following residential and Confidential demands

Written by . Published on June 2nd 2014.


600 New Bins To Tackle City Centre Litter Issue
 

CONFIDENTIAL has been on the case of litter in the city for some time.

The current litter bins are being replaced as they are no longer suitable for the amount of people who now visit Manchester."

Last summer, during the Manchester International Festival 2013, we published this article highlighting the the city centre's dirty-face during such a crucial event for Manchester.

Following this we were pleased to hear that due to an airport dividend (following Manchester Airport Holdings Ltd's purchase of Stansted), the problem of litter in the city was going to be tackled with a £14.5m Clean City fund.

In December 2013, 10,000 litres of water was used to jetwash 90,000 sq metres of pavement, equivalent to around twelve football pitches.

However, as Confidential pointed out at the time, it's all well and good blasting the pavement, but if there aren't enough bins to put your gum in, or the current ones are too full, then really, what's the point? The gum will just end up back on the pavement.

Confidential article Dec 2013: 'Where are all the bloody bins?'Confidential article Dec 2013: 'Where are all the bloody bins?'

So imagine our satisfaction when we received word from the Council that £500k from the Clean City fund was being used to provide the city centre with 600 'specially designed' new bins.

At over £800 a bin, Confidential hopes they're very 'special' indeed - although we do expect this includes installation and labour. At least, we hope it does.

From early June 2014 the new bins will target litter hotspots around Piccadilly Gardens and Market Street, and across the rest of the centre throughout the summer.

However, this doesn't mean that the city gets an additional 600 bins, as many of the current unsuitable and knackered old bins are being replaced.

A council spokesperson said: "The current litter bins are being replaced as they are no longer suitable for the amount of people who now visit Manchester - some are too small, there aren’t enough of them, they are in the wrong places and some are in a poor state of repair. Those bins which can still be used will be moved to other areas of the city."

Waste following clean-up grants announced by the Council in March 2014Waste following clean-up grants announced by the Council in March 2014

Following the announcement of the Clean City fund in September 2013, the council called on residents to make suggestions as to how the money should be spent. More than 650 ideas were received, but residents are now being reminded that they only have until Saturday June 7 to submit ideas on how to clean up the city.

Cllr Bernard Priest, Manchester City Council’s deputy leader, said: “These new bins are a major investment in our city centre but we now need members of the public to work with us, understand it's not acceptable to drop litter, and take responsibility by using the bins.

"This is just one of the many ways in which lasting and visible improvements are being made to our city thanks to the Clean City fund. We asked residents for their ideas about how this money could be spent, and proud Mancunians responded to this call in their hundreds. I’d like to thank residents for their enthusiasm, but I’d also like to remind anyone else with suggestions for what we can do to make the city cleaner and greener to get in touch with us before the deadline.”

Visit here to offer suggestions and track progress:

www.manchester.gov.uk/cleancity

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How the new bins will lookHow the new bins will look

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49 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

Ghostly TomJune 2nd 2014.

The city centre is looking very messy these days. The council needs to employ a few more people with brushes as well. The council have the money but have they got the will?

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Not UKIPJune 2nd 2014.

They have the money? How do you know? Councils everywhere are being clobbered by central government in terms of funding and those cuts are still filtering through. Government departments on the other hand have taken a much smaller percentage cut in their budgets yet do very little that actually impacts on the every day quality of life in our towns and cities. People need to wake up to these issues.

Ghostly TomJune 2nd 2014.

Well they've just spent £3.5 million on a completely unnecessary entrance to Central Library and if they can afford that they are obviously rolling in it in the Town Hall so they can certainly find some to buy a few brushes and employ some extra people to clean the streets.

Ghostly TomJune 2nd 2014.

...and @notukip they have enough money to buy 600 bins at over £800 each! Short of money? I think not... Council back to its old spendthrift ways it seems...

Not UKIPJune 2nd 2014.

But your point was about employing more people armed with brushes. This is a revenue cost. In local government money for capital projects like land, property buildings, infrastructure or equipment cannot simply be converted to revenue to provide services i.e. every day running costs such as people's salaries.

Not UKIPJune 2nd 2014.

It is a mark of how bad things have become that MCC has to use a dividend from the airport to find something that should come from mainstream funding. I would much rather see this funding go towards funding other forms of infrastructure that the city needs like more and better parks or enabling more housing projects.

Ghostly TomJune 3rd 2014.

Well I'm pleased that the council is using the money for something the city actually needs to have done rather than on some vanity project. If we're lucky they might use the next lot of money that comes their way to do something with the mess they have created in Piccadilly Gardens. As for not using this money for that project or that money for this project have they not heard of creative accounting? They find the money when they want to for a pet project and then bleat about cuts when there's, supposedly, nothing left to support a service. So we get the ludicrous situation of suburban libraries under threat while they spend £3.5 million on a completely unnecessary entrance to Central Library, ruining one of the most elegant walkways in the city. As for cuts, if Labour had won the last general election they would have had to make the same cuts as this government to get the economy on track. So we would be in the same situation regardless of who was in central government. The fact remains the council has money for things it wants to spend on. If people are so concerned about cuts maybe they should direct their concern to the council and ask how come a litter bin costs £800? @notukip

Not UKIPJune 3rd 2014.

That's an angry rant Tom but unfortunately a waste of effort because you seem to prefer to ignore the real life constraints that I have repeatedly pointed out. Well done.

Ghostly TomJune 3rd 2014.

Not an angry rant at all, just the truth of the situation which you choose to ignore. Repeating a point doesn't make it true. Do try to have an open mind in future. @notukip End...

AnonymousJune 3rd 2014.

You do seem to have a rosy view of central government Tom. I can see a bright career ahead of you as a ministerial press officer... www.bbc.co.uk/…/uk-politics-27675069…

Ghostly TomJune 4th 2014.

Believe me I have a far from rosy view of central government or local government. Both seem to be full of people who put party needs above the needs of the people who put them there. I read somewhere that in Ancient Athens they would elect a leader from one of their number. Anyone who desperately wanted the job was instantly eliminated. That would get rid of most if not all our politicians. I wouldn't last 10 minutes as any political press officer before I had told one of them exactly what I thought of them (or slapped one). I am on the side of the electorate and democracy. I firmly believe that politicians of any colour should do what the people who elected them want and not toe the party line. At the moment I'm very concerned with the political make up of Manchester City Council, a place I'm passionate about, which far from reflects what the people of Manchester voted for a few days ago. If you would like to have a representative democracy in Manchester you can join this campaign.....action.electoral-reform.org.uk/…/action…

Not UKIPJune 4th 2014.

Barking up the wrong tree Tom. You seem to believe PR is some kind of silver bullet that will magically transform local services. Wrong. Most powers and most funding for most things that impact you locally are determined in Westminster. That, sadly, is how things are run in this country which is one good reason why the scots want out so badly.

Ghostly TomJune 4th 2014.

No you are barking up the wrong tree. I am concerned about the lack of local democracy where 58% of the vote delivers 100% of the places on the council. Regardless of where the money comes from, how it's spent is decided by local councillors and PR would deliver a council that would have a range of views that would represent the electorate generally and not just 58% of it or a self appointed political elite.

Not UKIPJune 4th 2014.

With the greatest of respect I think you need to learn a bit more about how politics works in this country and the respective roles and responsibilities of central and local government before being so assertive. Most core services Councils provide are statutory which leaves little scope for local innovation. Even where services are adapted to local circumstances you still have the spectre of central gov issuing dicktats and / or bribes for political or ideological reasons (witness Eric Pickles interventions over weekly bin collections despite evidence showing bi-weekly to be cost effective and helping improve recycling rates). I'm not saying PR is a bad idea, just that it won't transform services in the way you think. And especially when Councils are facing such drastic cuts to their budgets, unlike most central government departments. Another issue you probably haven't even considered is to do with the quality of people attracted to become local Councillors. This is not a salaried role don't forget unlike MPs ( although they do get allowances). Most Councillors fit their responsibilities around a full time job, are retired or have other motivations some of which may not be congruent with the best interests of the communities they purport to serve. That is not to decry the good, committed and intelligent folk that do do the role but it does illustrate some of the wider issues.

Ghostly TomJune 4th 2014.

Had enough now, one simple comment about the mess in the streets and all this. Anything that starts with 'with the great respect' isn't going to show any so I didn't read the rest. I'm not going to respond to any more of your comments as it just seems to encourage you. It is finished...

Not UKIPJune 4th 2014.

You're right, this has taken a huge tangent. Despite all the above I think the push for PR is a worthwhile campaign and could deliver some improvements in scrutiny of Council policies and performance depending on the quality if individuals drawn into local politics.

AnonymousJune 2nd 2014.

Seriously how on earth can a waste bin cost over £800 .

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AnonymousJune 2nd 2014.

They're made from recycled illegal immigrants and cost £5 each. It's the £795 delivery charge that's the p***er.

DanJune 2nd 2014.

This is good news, the amount of rubbish on the streets (especially on a Saturday and Sunday morning) is terrible. The sad thing is, they can install as many bins as they want but it still won't make the creatures the inhabit the city at the weekend use them.

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SAZKJune 2nd 2014.

Exactly. Apparently it isn't cool to throw rubbish in the bin.

AnonymousJune 2nd 2014.

Perhaps it's because Labour are supposed to be working class and working class people do tend to get a bit silly when they've got some money in their pocket don't they? You know...bling, iPods and designer killer dogs.

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Mark.June 2nd 2014.

Perhaps they are all lazy stereotypes.

espoirJune 2nd 2014.

£800, let me guess are these the famous "smart bins" that have computers, connect to the internet with windows and break down after a few months. I hope not. We need those those big clunking cast iron bins they have at the seaside and lots of them. I bet they don't cost £800. It would be typical of Manchester to re-invent the wheel for such a simple low tech problem of having enough bins, emptying them, closing the door properly, power washing them and repairing them with some silly high tech gadgetry that will break.

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Ghostly TomJune 3rd 2014.

I've seen them in the MEN and I'm at a loss to see where £800 was spent...

AnonymousJune 4th 2014.

£800 seems reasonable enough to me given the necessary parties involved: Bin Solutions & Procurement Specialist Bin Procurement Finance Officer Bin Procurement Finance Auditor Bin pre-Installation Surveyor Health & Safety Officer responsible for bins Bin Hole-excavating Executive Bin Hole-excavating Junior Executive x 2 Bin Hole-filling & Concrete-pouring Technician Bin Hole-filling & Concrete-pouring Assistant Technician Occupational Therapist to address implications of overuse of spades Bin Delivery & Logistics Technician (+vehicle, + petrol, etc) Bin Installation Manager Bin Installation Technician x 2 Project Outcome Research Officer Social Media Manger (to update the project status via Twitter & Facebook) Project Guru

AnonymousJune 3rd 2014.

Great to see the bins, but will they be emptied? Because they're not at the moment...

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JoanJune 3rd 2014.

They are emptied at present, with different frequencies for different bins / different areas. There is some flexibility, but at times it's clearly insufficient to cope with the massive fluctuations in litter deposited. This is being kept under review as the higher numbers of new and larger bins are installed.

AnonymousJune 4th 2014.

Cllr Joan it really is great to see that new bins are coming. They look smart. We need you to finish the job now though and ensure litter patrols are re-introduced and bins are emptied regularly. I'm ashamed of Manchester at the moment.

JoanJune 3rd 2014.

Ed. Can you add a pic of the new bins please?

Poster BoyJune 3rd 2014.

Sticking plasters.

AnonymousJune 3rd 2014.

Have lived in London, Glasgow,Edinburgh and MANCHESTER, in UK, and Manchester has to be the WORST for litter..For a place people claim to LOVE, they treat it like sh1t...

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Mark FullerJune 3rd 2014.

Loving something or someone, and then , often unconsciously, treating the thing or person like shit, is pretty standard human behavior.As for Manchester's litter problem, it is bad and has got worse in recent times ( I blame coalition cuts and Maggie Thatcher), as it has in other cities I know well. On a brighter note, I'm pleased to see the bee emblem on the new super duper bins. It would be nice to see the Manchester bee on the trams as well.

Ghostly TomJune 4th 2014.

I blame people who are too bone idle to put it in a bin or, failing that, put it in their bag/pocket, take it home and dispose of it there. Imagine the money the city would have for other things if everyone did that simple thing. I like the idea of the bee on the trams but I don't think it would go down well in the other boroughs where the trams go that don't have a bee on their coats of arms. There would be uproar about Manchester Imperialism...

mike_aJune 4th 2014.

Agree with Ghostly Tom, shouldn't it start with people actually putting their rubbish in the bins and not dropping it (and if there isn't a bin near then carrying it until you see another bin)? What happened to the on the spot fines for people dropping litter in the street (or throwing out of car windows)?

Ghostly TomJune 4th 2014.

The little signs around town say you COULD be fined by £50... Make them say WILL be fined by say £500 and you will be awarded a free brush because you will spend a lot of your free time cleaning the city streets.

Poster BoyJune 4th 2014.

Ghostly Tom appears to have a bee in his bonnet...

espoirJune 4th 2014.

thanks for the photo of the new bins, they look really cheap and flimsy, they're made of thin plate not like clunky cast iron bins. Just put "square cast iron litter bin" in a search engine. The bee, well would be nice if it was on a good bin, but on a cheap looking bin like this it becomes a gimmick. I would like to know if these have been tested or if the public have been involved in the choice. I doubt it.

GoodieroJune 4th 2014.

Ghostly tom do u moan about everything.....

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Ghostly TomJune 4th 2014.

I comment about things I feel passionate about and leave the moaning to other people....

AVOJune 4th 2014.

Similar bins can be had here for around £250 - £350 plus vat each. www.bin-shop.co.uk/…/external-litter-bins… Surely given that the council were looking to buy 600, they should have obtained a better price. So was there a bidding process? Does the price include installation? Surely there should be some transparency to this process. Couldn't the money have been better spend employing litter pickers or PCSOs?

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Not UKIPJune 4th 2014.

Does seem an exorbitant price for a bog standard bin. Like most bins these will look dirty and care worn in no time. Who was responsible for their procurement?

AVOJune 4th 2014.

As I understand it, the Council don't even have to pay the VAT element on the bins.

AnonymousJune 5th 2014.

Maybe the bee symbols cost £600 per bin.

AnonymousJune 5th 2014.

Maybe the bee symbols cost £600 per bin.

Poster BoyJune 5th 2014.

Some people should stick to the day job...

TimJune 14th 2014.

The bins are a good idea but could someone with an idea of how to organise street furniture have been used to site them?! Most of them have been dumped out of line with other furniture and as such present yet another obstacle to pedestrian flow. Someone out them in line with everything else please!!

TimJune 14th 2014.

Correction, someone PUT them in line.

Tim shared this on Facebook on June 14th 2014.
AnonymousJuly 6th 2014.

Speaking as a QS, if this is a full supply and install price for a new steel bin and insert, including removal of old bins for reuse, (www.manchester.gov.uk/…/city_centre_litter_bins…) then this is not necessarily an unreasonable price. There may be some messing about with the fixing with bolting in to concrete. Sometimes I am sure they might have to lay new concrete. So add on hours of labour per bin, project manager, storage etc. extra for the custom "bee" logo etc. See this website for comparative material costs: www.broxap.com/…/olympus-litter-bin-80-litres… Gut feeling is it could be done a bit cheaper version. Someone could FOI the procurement

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