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1000 Apartments For Chapel Wharf

Huge riverside development for the city centre

Written by . Published on June 25th 2014.


1000 Apartments For Chapel Wharf
 

AFTER much speculation Dandara has revealed a revised plan for the site it owns on Chapel Wharf in Salford, between The Lowry Hotel and The Edge.

And it’s big.

The plans are going to be of huge interest to anyone owning and living in Century Buildings, the back of which directly faces the site.

Almost 1,000 apartments in four buildings on a site that runs to the River Irwell and is currently being used as a surface car park. To compare Green Quarter has 1,300 units.

Ten years ago Dandara had plans for a 37 storey tower on the site along side three other buildings all around 17 storeys high.

The market downturn meant it never progressed but a planning consent still exists.

The new plans are by Axis Mason, who used to have an office in Manchester but don’t any more, and have done a lot of work on Jersey, where Dandara has a base.

The scheme is for four chunky looking blocks with ground floor commercial around courtyards that will be open to the public and 'walkways will be established to improve pedestrian links to the riverside and city centre.' 

 The plans are going to be of huge interest to anyone owning and living in Century Buildings, the back of which directly faces the site.

The reduced height will spare anyone living on the higher floors of The Edge but it’s still going to make a massive impact. A harsh lesson about buying next to a car park / building plot.

Martin Brown of Dandara said: “We believe our revised proposals for new apartments and commercial space will revitalise this site and play a major role in the on-going regeneration of the Chapel Street corridor and central Salford.”

Dandara’s development team will use feedback from the consultation to shape its proposal before a detailed planning application is submitted to Salford City Council later this year.

Dandara of course are responsible for Spectrum, one of the better designed and better maintained buildings in the city as well as The Lock Building on Whitworth Street which has a rather nice atrium.

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39 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

Alex24June 25th 2014.

Have any pictures being released of the development yet? Manchester really seems to be returning to the boom times.

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Alex24June 25th 2014.

been released*

Lesley ChowJune 25th 2014.

Wow, this will block out a lot of sunlight at the Edge. That was one of the perks of living there

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Ghostly TomJune 25th 2014.

Look on the bright side, it'll be a bit like living in New York...#silverlinings

Ghostly TomJune 25th 2014.

...and I guess it'll depend on how the blocks are arranged...

rinkydinkJune 25th 2014.

Didn't Dandara also do St. Georges Island? Their buildings always look neatly done but somehow a little bit plain and on the dull side to me...

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TomJune 26th 2014.

I really like St Georges. Plain yes but I'd say kind of classy - clean well proportioned modernism, bit like One St Peter's Square.

Chris HawkeJune 27th 2014.

I do quite like that One St's Peter's Square. Although I think it would have been nicer if the columns made it all the way to the top. Not a fan of St Georges however, the repetition of the design gets me down.

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

I've seen the plans, they revised them recently and they look a million times worse, they are absolutely vile.

Andrew JonesJune 26th 2014.

Dandara: the Ikea of manchester apartments. Known for awful quality.

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

They look horrendous! 4 cement coloured lego block with pale pink screens. Like 1970's halls of residence which these will no doubt become

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

The architect at the public meeting said their budget only allowed for utilitarian blocks to be created rather then the iconic tower originally planned for

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AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

There was never anything remotely "iconic" about this development.

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

This hideous development will block out the sun for all the apartment buildings on blackfriars st up to parsonage gardens & increase the traffic with 1 in 3 apts getting a car park space

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

Planning permission was granted with quite a stylish look but now of course that's been ditched in favour of the pack them in, build it cheap Dandara method

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AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

The original scheme was diabolical. Four or five enormous slabs perched on top of space-hogging car park podiums. Big, dumb, cheap and ugly.

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

If manchester is returning to boom times then now is the time to ensure this new lease of life is built with care & sympathy to the existing Victorian architecture

AnonymousJune 26th 2014.

It's going to look truly painful next to the lovely 1920's inspired white office building to the left of The Lowry Hotel....i think the tax office are inside it.

Hero
Jill BurdettJune 27th 2014.

Link to cgi images here. www.dropbox.com/…/AACFdjQdQgNeQGH4gR9G5cX2a… The site currently has space for 320 cars. I think the same number of apartments would be about right.....

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Chris HawkeJune 27th 2014.

Wow so generic, like melding of Green Quarter, Spectrum and St Georges island. I feel let down already.

AnonymousJune 27th 2014.

Thanks Jill. Doesn't seem so bad actually. The massing of the blocks seem to be broken up much better than in the original scheme. All apartments look like they benefit from large balconies which is a real plus point and sets it apart from other developments. Its the aspect to Chapel Street that makes it look really unsympathetic . This is over the road from Salford Cathedral don't forget.

Hero
Jill BurdettJune 27th 2014.

Its not opposite the Cathedral. Its further down towards Greengate. between the Edge and The Lowry.

AnonymousJune 27th 2014.

Oh, I meant Sacred Trinity Chrurch. Whatever offers a poor relationship to that building and the terrace it sits next to. The public realm and outlook from most of those apartments will be pretty dire too.

AnonymousJune 27th 2014.

there's only 40 decent apartments there imo, the ones that face the city

Nikki DysonJune 27th 2014.

WOuld a lot of people objecting to the proposal actually affect the outcome? Sure the council will just see the ££ rather than consider the impact on the other buildings in the area.

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CheeseJune 27th 2014.

Wrong. The council will consider what's appropriate for the location, considering that it's in the city centre. People's objections will be considered in making the decision, but will not be the only factor.

AnonymousJune 27th 2014.

Surprised the "Castlefield Residents" haven't put in an objection yet.

SteveJune 27th 2014.

Why would they? It's not in Castlefield

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AnonymousJune 27th 2014.

They love a good planning objection

Ian ChristieJuly 3rd 2014.

Over the last 6 years Castlefield Forum has objected to 2 planning applications. The first was the proposal to replace Jackson’s Wharf with a glass apartment block the wrong size and shape for its site. The Council agreed, the developers lost their appeal and the result is the stunningly successful and popular pub, The Wharf. The second is the current objection by some residents to the Ordsall Chord – not to the Chord itself which is strongly and enthusiastically supported but to the particular alignment chosen by Network Rail. Wow, two objections in 6 years, how negative is that! As against these objections, the Forum has renewed all the Information Boards throughout Castlefield, encouraged and promoted the use of the Castlefield Arena for gigs and other events, won several Britain in Bloom awards, created a new garden at Granary Wharf, developed a Masterplan for the Roman Gardens off Liverpool Road and given positive support to the Water Street and ITV/Quay Street Regeneration Frameworks. Ah well, never let the facts get in the way of an opportunity to make negative snidey comments!

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AnonymousJuly 3rd 2014.

The "Castlefield Forum" has a ring of the Wilmslow Womens Institute to it. One reaps what one sows; and Nandos or Wetherspoons have the money and the clout to blow some "Concerened Residents" out of the water without "consultation" or any of the niceties the poor bloke from Choice had - yet the "Forum" had an attack of the Victorian vapours as if there was going to be a brothel underneath their premises. Well done. And as for the petty objections to the (massively overdue)Ordsall Chord - you've simply increased the cost, which will have a knock-on effect on front line services in the City. I hope you're happy, but I suspect that you won't be unless you're busy writing letters of complaint about leylandii trees in a Stockport back garden.

Carol MiddletonJuly 3rd 2014.

Lets be clear, Castlefield Forum did NOT object to Jon Grieves's plans for Choice, we've actually worked together on local issues over the years. And as for your speculation that the Forum is akin to 'Wilmslow Womens Insititute'. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

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AnonymousJuly 4th 2014.

About as much as you know about rail infrastructure in the North West. Your point is?

AnonymousJuly 4th 2014.

Come on anon, what's your beef? Grow some balls and come to the next Forum meeting...

AnonymousJuly 4th 2014.

My "beef" is that a coterie of "concerned residents" hold the whole city to ransom over pseudo Cheshiresque objections to "impeding their amenity" and other such nonsense. Manchester City Centre is exactly that, it's not Bramhall, it's not Hazel Grove or Prestwich. There is noise. There are bars. Which give much needed employment. There are restaurants - and there is *progress* - all of which, the good people of Castlefield are vehemently opposed to. The businesses were there before the loft conversions; and just because you've hung up your dancing shoes, doesn't mean the whole city has to. NIMBYism like this has killed Worsley. In short, if you don't wish to have a cross-city railway line next to your bijou apartment - don't move into the City Centre - there is plenty room in Handforth for all of you who yearn "peace and quiet" - you can't have it both ways.

Ian ChristieJuly 5th 2014.

Anon, you seem so full of indiscriminate generalised bile it hardly seems worthwhile to debate with you – I assume the purpose of this rant slot is to debate rather than just giving vent to splenetic prejudice? - but I’ll give it one more try. Yes, a TINY number of individuals did object to the Ordsall Chord on the grounds that it went too close to their homes or that they weren’t offered sufficient compensation, but the Forum (while maybe having some sympathy with them), didn't support their objection at all. We thought the benefits of the Chord – an extra 700 train journeys a day in the north - FAR outweighed the disbenefit to a few individual households. Our objection was on entirely different grounds which had nothing to do with the proximity of flats – as you’d know if you’d bothered to go to the Public Inquiry or on the Inquiry website. And Yes, a small number of individuals living in Middle Warehouse did object to recent proposals for Choice (having had, I think, bad experiences with other bars - not Choice - locally), but the Forum and the vast majority of residents didn’t object or take a view on the issue at all. So I think you need to distinguish between the ‘Forum’, ‘Castlefield residents’ and some ‘individual Castlefield residents’. To tar all Castlefield residents or the Forum as NIMBYS is as absurd, unintelligent and mindless as saying all women are bad drivers, all gays camp, all Muslims terrorists or all people living in Droylsden chavs. And why, Anon, are you anon?

Jonathan Schofield - editorJuly 5th 2014.

Ian and Carol good replies. The Anon's a fool if he thinks people shouldn't keep a careful watch on their area even when living in a city centre. You can be progressive, encourage progress, but you can't give carte blanche to developers and the council just because you don't want to be called a NIMBY. I'm with the objectors over the route of the Ordsall Chord whilst also acknowledging its undoubted importance. But both the heritage obligations and the economic verities could have been accommodated if the route had been pushed south a little. I think the Castlefield Forum is a model of how to encourage development but still be intelligent commentators and critics of development and policy in the city. Other parts of the city would do well to follow their example.

AnonymousJuly 7th 2014.

...and a reasoned right to reply is removed. How reasonable.

AnonymousJuly 4th 2014.

Reference: 105145/LO/2014/C1 Alternative Reference: PP-03244949 Application Received: 12 Mar 2014 Address: Choice Bar Castle Quay Chester Road Manchester M15 4NJ Proposal: LISTED BUILDING CONSENT for Internal alterations and external signage. Status: Application Approved

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