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So Gordo was banned from the MEN ball. Perfect example of the MEN's pettiness or Gordo spitting his dummy out?

Written by . Published on May 15th 2006.


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So Gordo was banned from the MEN ball. Perfect example of the MEN's pettiness or Gordo spitting his dummy out? Either way the gloves are out, it's Mancon, the Jedi Rebels vs the MEN, aka The Evil Empire. Let us know what you think!

See the feedback so far below.....

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RESPONSES

The MEN is a great paper. Ideal as far as I'm concerned. I read the Business section on a Tuesday religiously.

Damian Smythe

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I write to say it is a real shame that 'Manchester Confidential', something which many people value and enjoy has now become a regular platform for 'you' to direct your bitterness towards our newspaper group. My friends and I find your comments short sighted and pathetic. Along with some other key players in the City we feel a great original concept with its own community is now potentially being ruined by your 'boring rants'. Stick to what you know, tell us a good place to get a meal and leave media expertise and comment to those who know....

Phil McLoughlin, MEN

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In response to the line "Stick to what you know, tell us a good place to get a meal and leave media expertise and comment to those who know...." by Phil McLoughlin, MEN

I'd just like to ask is that the same Phil McLoughlin that was drafted in from the MEN motors advertising team to take over the advertising of City Life after the MEN had ousted the original(and successful) ad team after CL was formerly merged into the MEN sausage factory in summer 1999? - maybe if Phil had stuck to flogging 4x2 classifieds to local Skoda dealerships in Rochdale - rather than trying to sell a genuinely vibrant and credible entertainment magazine as if it was a cross between Property Week and The Salford Advertiser's what's on section - then it might have survived the hand(s) of both Simon'Sweeny' Toft and Mark 'Dodgy' Dodson.

By the way, city centre newsagents apparently get 3p a copy for 'giving away' the MEN - and some have confessed to me that they are ordering loads and just skipping them. Somehow I doubt we'll see that little nugget on the MEN's media business page...

all the best

Keith Best

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Read your Horrocks missive with glee. As the editor of the erstwhile greatest regional paper, you'd think he'd know the difference between 'regard of' and 'regard for.' Still, grammar's clearly not his strong point.

Anonymous (name and address supplied)

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Oh sooooo touchy Mr. Horricks. This man is so out of touch with modern manchester, an old has been springs to mind. if they really do want to reach the young professionals of manchester instead of the current ageing readership they need a new editor with fresh ideas, not someone who employs a homophobic bigot in the shape of andrew grimes. It's free and i still won't read it till both of them go!

Philip Danes

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So your uninvited from some poncey media do? you should be glad of the night off if you ask me!
I'm assuming this is all something to do with your promotion/comment about the north west enquirer? haven't really been paying that much attention to the matter but i do know that the MEN is almost as boring as the bbc's 'north west tonight' program these days so god bless anyone who who dare's to take on the big boys!

May i just ask if the sudden arrival of MEN's FREE giveaway of all their chip paper in town has anything to do with the new paper? can't help but think the big boys cage has suddenly been rattled....
Just a thought.

Dave Rogers

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In reply to Phil McLoughlin, MEN: Being the guy who started Manchester's first magazine to rival City Life (Moving Manchester) i find it annoying and rude that you could tell Mark Garner to 'leave media expertise and comment to those who know....'. Just like the MEN you have obviously not done your homework. Mark (although sometimes a bit Lord like) has more knowledge of Media than most of the 2 bit employees at the MEN, his experience out shines that of myself and for that matter yours Phil. The MEN has worked its greedy little hands for too long in this city and it's about time the smaller media companies said what they think. Finally, i owned and ran Moving Manchester for 5 tough but rewarding years and in the same way you couldn't shut us down you can't silence your critics any longer. Ask yourselves why your sales are falling, The MEN is petty, underhand and most of all OUT DATED.

Michael Huckerby - Former Publisher MM

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So Phil McLoughlin regards himself and his employers as having "media expertise", and think they are "those who know...."? Who is he kidding? Has the MEN ever been more irrelevant than it is now? They shut City Life magazine after employing as its editor someone who chose to live in Liverpool, and who duly turfed out all its good and able writers who knew the city inside out. He proceeded to turn this once valued and worthy title into an unread and unreadable pile of dross. The Enquirer, for all its faults, should thrive, while the MEN will continue to flounder.

Anonymous (name and address supplied)

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Have to admit, i used to like your site, the fair smatterings of Gordo never caused a problem but really, who on earth do you think cares about the fact you cant get into a party?
Judging by what i, and just about everyone else i speak to in manchester thinks of reading about you, I really dont think you are as important as you think you are and your sales may well be in danger of dropping below the figures criticise of the manchester evening news in your latest egotistical rant about the dangers of anybody else except yourself doing something in Manchester. Get over yourself and stick to what your site used to do well - good offers and local gossip.

Dave Thompson

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For the record: City Life still had many good writers after its new ed stepped in. I'd say it actually lost a few of the dull ones in the cull. It did not become an 'unread and unreadable pile of dross'. Does anyone else detect the all too obvious bitterness here? GET OVER IT!

Anonymous (name and address supplied)

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I think this whole thing makes for great entertainment for Manchester confidential readers! I am in Manchester once a week for meetings and what not and i will be sure to buy a portion of chips next time i am there! Nothing better than a media slagging match, Oooooo handbags. May i suggest to the MEN you dedicate a full page to Manchester Confidential bashing and lets get a proper war going on. I am available for P.R stunts throughout the week. kind Regards.

Rob Hodgson

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I have to say I find Paul Horrocks a great & genuine guy! good company, and far from "petty" I feel you guys should simply move onto the next "free" party, Internet & email now seems to have replaced "paper" almost. But you cannot replace genuine people like Paul. Doing a great job under very difficult conditions.

Steve

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It's all too easy, whoever you are, to hide behind an "anonymous (name and address supplied)" moniker. Well done on your courage, that must have been very brave of you. I, however, am not so shy. I’ve kept my counsel since City Life closed, but given that I was connected with the magazine for 18-and-a-half years between August 1985 and February 2004, quite considerably longer than anyone else, I should like to think I have some idea of what I'm talking about. I, along with a handful of others, was shown the door by the magazine's last 'editor', someone whose only tangible contribution to the history of the magazine was to have played a major role in its closure. I now work in PR in the city, and I come across countless people who say "I used to read City Life." Up until Luke Bainbridge left as editor in late-2003, the magazine had a presence and status and impact and influence in the city which far outweighed its modest sale (indeed this debate suggests it). That changed the moment its final editor, Bainbridge's successor, turned it into a fluffy lightweight and irrelevant lifestyle title which bore no relation to Manchester. How would anyone know if it "still had good writers after its new ed stepped in"?, as your brave anonymous correspondent claims? Precious few people actually read it, as its paltry sales figures indubitably proved. The magazine, as it had become, simply wasn't worth saving. And as much as it may hurt "anonymous (name and address supplied)", that is a fact. As to the matter in hand, as others here have said, does anyone care that Gordo was barred from the Diary party?

Mike Barnett

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