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Should pubs install airport style security?

Do you think this is a sensible idea, or a terrible one: part of the slide into a security obsessed nation where even simple pleasures are ruined by fear of rather than actual crime?

Published on October 13th 2008.


Should pubs install airport style security?

The Results..

Yes: - 40%
No: - 60%

News reaches Confidential about a pub security scheme this weekend. In a Moss Side pub, the Beehive, airport-style security in the form of a metal-detecting arch was fitted at the door. This strategy was declared a success as no weapons were found – Confidential says, what a shocker. Rumours reach our ears that the strategy might be rolled out across the conurbation.

Do you think this is a sensible idea, or a terrible one: part of the slide into a security obsessed nation where even simple pleasures are ruined by fear of rather than actual crime?

Vote yes for a sensible idea, vote no for a terrible one (although you might have an inkling of where we stand on this).

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19 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

Jeffery FrankOctober 13th 2008.

Moss side needs them... but i dont think it would change my opinion on whether I would want to go there

PaulOctober 13th 2008.

I think it's a ridiculous idea. When the alarm goes off, who's going to be the one who tackles the would be hitman? The girl behind the bar? Or are we going to have security guards as well. The vast amounts of money that this will cost would be better spent on the root causes of this problem.

madforit?October 13th 2008.

The one bit of this story i don't understand is who in their right mind would want to drink in the beehive on claremont road? it makes The Jockey in Shameless look like the Ritz. Or the Brass Handles in Langworthy look like The Metropolitan... It would be cheaper and more sensible just to board the place up.

Simon TOctober 13th 2008.

Is it true that some of your more enlightened readers are campaigning for Panacea, and Cloud 23 to install machines for identifying customers with personalised numberplates, or sunglasses on their head in October, or those with Cheshire postcodes to keep the rich scum out of the city? Or would that empty those bars overnight?

Simon TOctober 13th 2008.

Is it true that some of your more enlightened readers are campaigning for Panacea, and Cloud 23 to install machines for identifying customers with personalised numberplates, or sunglasses on their head in October, or those with Cheshire postcodes to keep the rich scum out of the city? Or would that empty those bars overnight?

AnonymousOctober 13th 2008.

Is your blinkered stereotyping and general ignorant hatred of people from Cheshire so great you have to repeat yourself?

AnonymousOctober 13th 2008.

If people have nothing to hide then what's the problem????

Ali McGowanOctober 13th 2008.

I can see it being a great idea for proper scummy parts of our fair city. But the places in which I drink simply would not warrant this kind of ridiculous security [yet!]. So, it's worth considering for 'rougher' venues... but the problem becomes, if people still insist on carrying weapons about, presumably they'll migrate to alternative venues without such security... meaning those venues will need the same security measures - and then it becomes some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy!!!

Ali McGowanOctober 13th 2008.

= over all, it's a crap idea.

KellyOctober 13th 2008.

Hmm, I dunno. My initial reaction is that anything that makes a place safer is okay in my book, although as someone has said, who's going to tackle the guy with the gun or knife? It won't be an absolute deterrant to crime of course. Sure, it will stop guns coming in on people, but who's to say Gaz So-and-so hasn't paid the glass collector to put something in the toilets? Or that people will just improvise with sharpened plastic instruments (shivs!)? Or just take their crime elsewhere where there are no detectors? Nah, if it' only scum that drink in these dens, then let 'em do what they will to each other. I'll be elsewhere.

ChrisOctober 13th 2008.

I lived opposite the Beehive for 13 years, and frankly snipers would be more appropriate, though that said there were some general longstanding members of the community who you had to feel sorry for as the place got rougher and rougher over the years. I suspect there's not too many left now as I left there a good few years ago myself now and they were very thin on the ground.Seems a bit extreme for the likes of the New Union though...

forrestOctober 13th 2008.

why not just employ more police than neighburhood watch engineers or whatever theyre called. Why not introduce airport style security check points on every street, with armed polic standing the middle of the road, like a proper check point, save a fortne of the elecrtic for all the cameras, and not much f'cking about from many folk after that....I mean, a ring of steel on every road, like they had at the labour conference, get ridof the cameras, negate the need for airport style securty on pub doors...and why not bring in curew as well, anyone with sunglasses and private plates is not allowed out after 6pm unless they are wearing sunglasses and have written permission from Boris Johnson (why not make it difficut for them to get out at night) and then, introduce a congestion charge for anyone who has less than 3 people in the car..and their caris of german origin..and has an engine greater than 1.4 and it's silver..and if you have tintd windows and a bad ass exhaust, it's double money and parking tickets for stopiing at red lights.....and then......

forrestOctober 13th 2008.

why not just employ more police than neighburhood watch engineers or whatever theyre called. Why not introduce airport style security check points on every street, with armed polic standing the middle of the road, like a proper check point, save a fortne of the elecrtic for all the cameras, and not much f'cking about from many folk after that....I mean, a ring of steel on every road, like they had at the labour conference, get ridof the cameras, negate the need for airport style securty on pub doors...and why not bring in curew as well, anyone with sunglasses and private plates is not allowed out after 6pm unless they are wearing sunglasses and have written permission from Boris Johnson (why not make it difficut for them to get out at night) and then, introduce a congestion charge for anyone who has less than 3 people in the car..and their caris of german origin..and has an engine greater than 1.4 and it's silver..and if you have tintd windows and a bad ass exhaust, it's double money and parking tickets for stopiing at red lights.....and then......

AnonymousOctober 13th 2008.

wtf? i thought this was a spoof vote when i clicked through. seriously, airport metal detectors for pubs? how ridiculous. if people don't wanna get stabbed then don't go in dodgy pubs, then they'll shut and we'll have nothing to worry about! are we going to have to all drink from plastic cups INSIDE pubs too so we can't get glassed? maybe pool cues could be made from soft bendable foam for added crime prevention. do you have to remove your belt as you enter the beehive then too? and empty your pockets into a plastic container? i honestly can't believe how far people can take this stuff.

madforitOctober 13th 2008.

i think they should just knock down the beehive and have done with it.

White WizardOctober 13th 2008.

Only the people who have something to hide would oppose this, and as far as who will tackle the punter when the alarm goes off, use your brains, the pub will have signs outside so no one 'tooled up' with half a brain would try to get in anyway... alright it doesn't stop them waiting outside for people but it just makes it a safer environment for all inside. Everyone should do it. Come on make a stand!!!

WhiteWizardOctober 13th 2008.

" if people don't wanna get stabbed then don't go in dodgy pubs, then they'll shut and we'll have nothing to worry about! " What a stupid, Stupid comment... What so close all dodgy pubs and all the dodgy people will just stop drinking will they??? And they will think "Oh No there are no more dodgy pubs anywhere I cant go out"...?? Nope thats right they will move on...and when the next one closes too... ON and on and on... Soon every pub will be closed... Last time I checked there was no enforcable law asking you to bring your undodgy passport to gain entry into a "NORMAL" pub... if that exists

AnonymousOctober 13th 2008.

madforit whats you problem with the beehive? you must not have been in there in the past few years coz if you had you would see how much it has changed,

AnonymousOctober 13th 2008.

madforit someone should shut you down, coz there aint nothing wrong with the beehive its a nice clean and safe community pub and proberly the best in the area your own local proberly aint any better. have you never heard the saying never judge a book by its cover? there is good and bad in every area no matter where you come from.

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